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Originally Posted by Lune
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What do you think is going to happen to the national debt when you elect a party-loyal Republican like Kasich who is going to funnel money to defense spending and quite possibly put boots on the ground in Syria? Just how much did our national debt decrease under George "Small-Government Republican" Bush? You tell me to find a Sanders-like candidate who understands the value of balancing the budget, and you offer me an establishment Republican. Guess what, it's not hard to balance a state budget (Ohio) when you don't have things like defense spending, which his party absolutely LOVES. Jerry Brown balanced California's budget, and he's a DEMOCRAT in a state full of democrats, with a legislature run by democrats. And these aren't just any democrats, they are California democrats who fucking love to spend. Things are a lot different as POTUS.
I'm disappointed that you've fallen victim to the rhetoric that just because a candidate is a leftie means he wants to spend the country to death. That's just standard issue Fox News Republican Brand™ marketing meant to manipulate the naive and lazy, and stoke the fires of tribalism. Uprooting the graft and waste inherent in our healthcare system and cutting the bloat would have saved our country billions of dollars, but the insurance companies won, precisely because they managed to convince people like you that anyone actually trying to fix the problem is going to bankrupt us. It's like a Pavlovian response at this point, you're so well trained with the REFORM/SOCIALISM = DEBT SPENDING NO MONEY OMG NO DISCIPLINE RECKLESS HOW WILL U PAY FOR IT conditioning that here you are, vomiting it all back at me. Meanwhile here we are drowning in debt from politicians identical to Kasich. Bush was a moderate too. Bill Clinton balanced the budget.
Sanders was the only one on a crusade to liberate our country and government from Shylock, the only one serious about campaign finance reform (which addresses the root of all these problems, that our politicians represent money, not people.) He had foresight to try and save our economy from the banks when it mattered, and who was so far ahead of the rest of the country when it comes to solving the problems of the 2010's that he has been preaching solutions since the fucking 1990's. It breaks my bleeding heart that this guy spent his life fighting the good fight, only to lose to someone like Hillary Clinton, precisely because of disingenuous arguments like yours. |
Bill Clinton balanced the budget... Lol
The Internet boom had nothing to do with that? What about NAFTA? Has the precipitous loss of jobs that Bill Clinton facilitated have anything to do with our current debt?
1. I voted for Kerry in 2004. Don't blame me for bush
2. Healthcare isn't fixed by socialism in this country. Heard of the VA? We aren't China. We don't hire Chinese men with huge brains to run things based on talent. We hire based on affirmative action and patronage. We aren't swedes or japs. We're Americans. This means that at least 1/3 of our population is useless and given that the government will always have some of the useless demographic within it, you shouldn't place so much faith in it
- as an aside, I hate insurance companies and expanding and federally insuring + allowing the accumulation year to year and movement from state to state, company to company of health savings accounts could destroy insurance companies. I say could because who the fuck knows
Oh, and we're fat pieces of shit. It's a dick thing to say but I don't want to pay for the obesity and diabetes of others. I realize that yes, I'm paying for it anyway, but if we do socialized medicine, I want to personally choose the diet of every fat ass I see on the street.
3. I don't want national defense spending. I guess you missed that part. NO ONE will close down bases or ditch the f-35 program. Kasich might invade Syria, I admit, that's fucked up, but Obama is now mulling action in Libya after toppling that country. And again, sanders can't win. He's the best on foreign policy, but he can't win. Kasich is less likely to go full retard with regard to foreign policy than anyone not named sanders