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Originally Posted by Jorgam
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The solution is def not to give everyone a free Ferrari. Something given has no value. This is why I believe those who sustain via government handouts have low self esteem. No one likes to take a handout. People will do it, but they often will hate you for having to take it. As well, when someone else is paying your way, that is not freedom.
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There is merit to what your saying. But technological industrial civiliation has thrown this balance out of wack?
How do you suppose everyone is to make a proper living in this era and in 3rd-1st world countries.
This is where the true realization of what people are saying comes in.
I really don't mind contributing to society, I like it. But I've had a hard knock life that I feel was unjustly imposed on me because of my birth. Fuckton better than some peasent in mogidishu or china, but I seek the BETTERMENT of all of humanity (even possibly at the expense of some of it, yay (fascist)) but hey
This is something we all have to figure out. I believe in justice, liberty, and freedom for all. And I believe in making people accept the consequences of NOT GIVING a shit and drowning themselves in beer and lottos and babies and drugs, and debt, and all the other things.
I doubt free ferraris would fix a damn thing, but it's a good metaphor, and it would be funny, and is a good thought experiment from a technological standpoint (robots can def help make ferraris)
maybe the upper class will be the ferrari designers and engineers who maintain the robots mass producing ferraris for everyone on the moon as they get shipped back to us! (I don't know i'm just being my typical crazy self at this point)
And yes I totally understand why some people do justly own a fuckton of ferraris (and possibly lambos) but I also know there are a fuckton of assholes all over all walks of life and I have suffered a fuckton of humanities bullshit to the point where I'm cold and hard hearted and honestly I'm way more ruthless than trump even if i'm not lucky and succesful.
At the end of the day material things are pointless and have nothing to do with any particular persons contributions to society nor should be the measure of ones quality of life. Yet we make people suffer under the most horrendous conditions, because we can't share properly or figure out how to automate efficiently and properly, or fight over something needlessly instead of looking at the big picture.
/rant off i'm going to go eat some of my delicious factory fed chicken and GMO carrots and onions.