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Originally Posted by Cochonou
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Dude has 2 level 60 shamans but doesn't know that shaman can shrink in dungeons. Keep on impressing me.
More seriously, you can pick up any class and do fine with shamans once 60 with torpor, malo, BoN and Spirit of the howler, but I would recommend you to go troll worshipping innoruuk.
This way, you can have the benefits of the regen (iksar and trolls both have the same regen numbers which is way higher than barbs and ogres). It does make a difference, even when you have torpor. Think of it as an extra fungi tunic.
The 2nd benefit from being a troll is that you can wear plate armor. JBB isn't game breaking, but it sure is handy at times. When leveling with epic, if you can have enough mobs to root / dot to cycle, JBB is useless, but try to kill a single mob with epic dot only and then do it with JBB only. JBB wins hands down in terms of time needed.
The 3rd benefit from worshipping innoruuk is that you will be able to have a clicky snare necklace. It sure isn't the best snare on earth and its duration is limited, but there are many situations where you will want a snare.
The ogre frontal stun immunity is really given too much value by many players but just go to WW and see those non ogres shamans soloing dragons. That should give you good insight on how game breaking (or not) that frontal stun immunity is ...
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I think pre canni iv and pre insta GCD cooldown the JBB was def a thing to be had. Do the math on torpor +canni IV and you'll see its probably slightly better to dot and canni more. JBB is still useful when you're low hp and waiting to torpor up, but its become situational now with canni iv. To do the same amount of dmg as bane of nife you have to cast jbb 8x (64 seconds.) In that time you can cast bane of nife, torpor and canni IV a bunch of times and be ahead in mana.
Also regarding the snare necklace, the fear undead one gets overlooked a lot. Yes it's way more situational, but you can put decide to put yourself in better situations. As an untwinked shammy leveling this thing singlehandedly got me from 40-53 averaging like 2-3 hours a level. Now with the warrens this quest is waaaay easy, you can probably get it by level 10, and its a much better leveling tool than the snare neck. Is it useful at 60? No not much outside of KC and HS, but neither is the snare necklace. Shaman already get tons of tools at 60 anyway, the big problem is just getting there and getting all those spells/clickies.
Also some dungeons are outdoors and can't shrink without using an expensive pot