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Old 02-01-2011, 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by chtulu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Also, there are a few philosophical arguments that toy with the thought of no god.

William Grey says this:

1. The creation of the world is the most marvelous achievement imaginable.

2. The merit of an achievement is the product of (a) its intrinsic quality, and (b) the ability of its creator.

3. The greater the disability (or handicap) of the creator, the more impressive the achievement.

4. The most formidable handicap for a creator would be non-existence.

5. Therefore if we suppose that the universe is the product of existent creator who can conceive a greater being - namely one who created everything while not existing.

6. An existing God therefore would not be being greater than which a greater cannot be conceived because an even more formidable and incredible creator would be a God which did not exist.

Ergo:


7. God does not exist.

This was a response to st Anselm of Canterbury's argument.

The point that these arguments are completely philosophical with no real merit other than a slightly amusing thought to entertain yourself with for a few minutes.
Your entire theory is based on a statement of pure opinion. Thus is flawed and again, irrelevant.

I'm done 'discussing' things with you, and any like you. I've done my part, and shown that you can't disprove God. There are many stories of God interacting with man, there are many things I've witnessed in my life that just shatter everything you want to make up, which is fine, you'll write them off as something I've just made up, or hallucinated, and that's fine if that's your justification for it all. But I know, that I know, that I know, and you can't prove otherwise.

Good luck to ya, hope you're right. But in the event you actually become aware that there is more to life than you are currently capable of conceiving, then that'll be a happy day.