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Old 02-01-2011, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by RocketMoose [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
You have yet to refute anything I have to say with anything other than playground tactics. You can attempt to demean me, and act as if I have no ability to reason, when the fact remains, I'm still here, I still can debate, and I will continue to debate, using my 'evolved' mind.

I can flip what you say just as you can attempt to flip what I say. Watch:

I can see how you can't grasp or comprehend anything about God and creation, it must be a very scary world you live in, having to go around believing that everything is random happenstance and that you only exist by pure chance. Oh wait, you were 'chosen' by evolution, since that's the explanation to everything.

See how easy that is? Oh wait, I'm not supposed to be able to do that because I have no ability to grasp, or comprehend anything you say though, cause you operate on much more evolved level than I do.

I really do feel for you guy/gal. Hope for your sake you're right about everything, sure would hate for it to all come down to the end for you to find out just how wrong and deceived you were.

Life is actually much more complex, and beautiful and worth appreciating when you take out God as the answer to everything. Evolution and life itself is an amazing, and complex process. Saying that we were put here in one day and that women came from the rib of man really demeans our existence. To say that we are the product of some bored natural super being that has an inferiority complex and demands worship is quite insulting and depressing.

Also, there are a few philosophical arguments that toy with the thought of no god.

William Grey says this:

1. The creation of the world is the most marvelous achievement imaginable.

2. The merit of an achievement is the product of (a) its intrinsic quality, and (b) the ability of its creator.

3. The greater the disability (or handicap) of the creator, the more impressive the achievement.

4. The most formidable handicap for a creator would be non-existence.

5. Therefore if we suppose that the universe is the product of existent creator who can conceive a greater being - namely one who created everything while not existing.

6. An existing God therefore would not be being greater than which a greater cannot be conceived because an even more formidable and incredible creator would be a God which did not exist.

Ergo:


7. God does not exist.

This was a response to st Anselm of Canterbury's argument.

The point that these arguments are completely philosophical with no real merit other than a slightly amusing thought to entertain yourself with for a few minutes.

The only two things that we can not explain are the exact moment life began and the exact process from non-living to living and the what was before the "big bang"(which, a lot of scientists are offering several theories, one or two saying that nothing was after the big bang, to others saying this is only one of an infinite amount of big bangs this universe has seen).

God's explanation? He just did it for the lulz.
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