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Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This isn't some perfect allegory to the immigration of Irish and Italians into the US in the 1800's / early 1900's.

There are already massive Muslim minorities in European countries who are unequivocally failing to assimilate, and hundreds of thousands more are coming. I don't think 'Let them in, we're all the same, multiculturalism is good' is any more realistic or sensible a position than 'let's think of informed ways to handle a deeply religious immigrant population with extremely incompatible values''

You're right that the bible and Torah are also very incompatible with post-enlightenment Western ideals, but you can't seriously be claiming politics and religion are anywhere near as entwined among Westerners as they are among most Muslims. Sharia law, religious law, is the norm in most Muslim countries, and religious values dictate political values to a much greater extent among Muslims than they do in the West. In Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Egypt, Iran, and many parts of Indonesia, I'd be a criminal for being an atheist.

haha. Christian fundamentalists are the bane of our political process! We just had a bible thumper shoot up a planned parenthood.

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