Lets keep this civil bros.
The purpose of UDB, VSR, and Triggered Fay was to give casuals a way to get their epics without competing with raiders. Its very clearly stated in the patch message. It may be that, most of the time, a casual guild is capable of taking these targets down in less than 20 minutes. If that's the case, awesome. But what if a casual guild takes its first ever shot at UDB trak and wipes out with trak at 2%? Should Rampage be able to kill trak take the guts BP and roll out? Even if they leave the guts for bard, should they get to keep the BP?
Your lute your trak. Period. If your guild wants to give up and let someone else take it in exchange for the guts, thats fine, but its your guild's trak and your guild can keep trying until it decides to call it a night.
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