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Old 10-23-2015, 05:57 PM
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Leaving the "hope and change" rationale you gave aside for the moment, I want to point out that I am asking for concrete examples of what Sanders will do to come through on your claim. I am not wanting to be snarky, but you have given the same list concerning "quality of life" that every single presidential candidate spouts off in their sleep. Not a SINGLE one presents a specific plan as to how they are going to accomplish such great things. There is a vast difference between saying "I am going to fix health care" and "This is how I am going to fix health care, x... y... z." HUGE difference.

Also I get what you are trying to say about our spending on military, but the USA does have obligations to the world, being a superpower and all. We are the spine of NATO. I mean no offense to those reading this who live in Europe, but the days are long gone that England, Spain, or France can muster a military might that will protect Europe, Britain, and Canada. If you have a better plan as to how we can keep our security obligations in those countries (including Japan and South Korea) without retreating from the world, then by all means spell it out. Until then, I submit that you're just repeating a "party line" equivalent to the other's side "we need a stronger military."
I will try, but naturally on some of these issues you may have an alternate stance on them. So Ill try to give you some examples that you can make your own decisions about rather than force feed you why I think they are important.

But to understand where my thoughts are at least coming from, it's that its time we put a long multi-decade investment in progressive ideals the way we did conservative ones in this nation, to see what hope and change can give us if we give it the time that it needs to actually make a change.

Here is some Bernie bullet points:

Comprehensive 12-step agenda for moving America forward. (Jan 2015)
Voted YES on $192B additional anti-recession stimulus spending. (Jul 2009)
Voted YES on modifying bankruptcy rules to avoid mortgage foreclosures. (May 2009)
Voted YES on additional $825 billion for economic recovery package. (Feb 2009)
Voted YES on $60B stimulus package for jobs, infrastructure, & energy. (Sep 2008)
Voted NO on paying down federal debt by rating programs' effectiveness. (Mar 2007)
Voted NO on restricting bankruptcy rules. (Jan 2004)
More enforcement of mortgage fraud and TARP fraud. (May 2009)
Ban abusive credit practices & enhance consumer disclosure. (Feb 2009)

Bernie Sanders on Corperate Reform.

Bernie Sanders on Education Reform

I dont want to tell you why any of this may or may not work, other than I have watched bernie for the last few years and have been very impressed with his passion and intelegnece, the way he fights for his ideals and how his belifes are what drive him, not influence by outside doners.

his constituents, unlike all the other candidates are the people.