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Old 10-16-2015, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
This is where I disagree with you lune.

1. I believe you should say, that Bernie could'nt win the NOMINATION. Which, I think is untrue. I still think there is huge chance that he can, and should he, he would win the election. The republican party will not. I remember how close of an election the last one felt vs how it actually was when it was all over. Mitt Romney lost by 132 electoral votes.. that's by like basically 75% of the vote... republicans don't stand a chance this year either. They are even more fractured than they were then, and their candidates are even less appealing. Whoever wins the democratic nomination, will become the next president.

2. This reminds me of the type of thing my dad says, where he thinks the president is more of a figure head than someone who can make any real changes. But that's just not true. Our president just veto's shit the religious extremest in congress try to pass left and right, national health care was his idea, the war in Iraq was a presidents personal choice. Bernie would achieve A LOT in his time in the office, that would make each of our lives drastically better. Maybe not so much for any player here that lives in a billionaire mansion, but that person still wont notice any real change. They'll still sit among their marble columns in front of their computer neckbearding as if nothing changed.

The only thing we have to do is get Bernie past Hillary.. its an uphill climb, but its one that seems more and more likely as we make it.
Maybe you're right, but this is the country that went with Bush over Gore, and Bush over Kerry, that idolizes Ronald Reagan, and genuinely believes Socialism is an evil Soviet cult full of people who wear red and want to eliminate all private enterprise.

When the older generations die shit will change. USA will shift left. Politically we've always lagged behind Europe by about a generation, don't forget we're not just progressing for ourselves but for the South too.