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Originally Posted by Raev
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You are missing the point: government does not work. Socialism has not worked in Russia, China, Argentina, Venezuela, Europe, USA, or anywhere else. The more government is involved in any economic activity, the less efficient that activity becomes.
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This is inaccurate. Bernie isn't asking for pure socialism, and none of the other democrats are either. You've got an image in your head of Soviet-style socialism and it just doesn't do reality justice. Democratic-Socialism works. It works in Denmark, Sweden, Germany, Iceland, Japan, Germany, Australia, Canada, Switzerland, Austria, and basically every developed Western nation who surpass the United States in most metrics for human progress and well being.
It's not the role of government to micromanage all economic activity, but it is its role to protect the lives of its citizens. It performs this role
very well in most other advanced nations, where people are generally happy, healthy, and prosperous. Meanwhile, in the United States, our country is being systematically looted by the elite and their politician minions. We can't reform our healthcare system, we can't reform our election system, we can't rebuild our infrastructure, revolutionize our energy production, control the scam that is our higher education, or reign in the military industrial complex. Our peers are doing these things, or never had these problems in the first place, because at a very fundamental level, their politicians aren't owned solely by the elite, and as a result, their political systems work (they also don't have the fiscal conservative political legacy of temporarily-embarrassed millionaires like we do but that's another discussion).
I know how hard you and Orruar lust for some Jeffersonian libertarian paradise where big guvment can't dip its greedy hands into muh property, and a big prosperous middle class works together on equal economic footing guided by the regulatory hand of the unfettered free market, but this is just not reality. That has never existed and never will exist, because humanity will always establish a hierarchy to fill the vacuum left by small government, and wealth will always concentrate over time. Government is the only force capable of countering the destruction and waste inherent in natural, organic human systems like capitalism.
TL;DR Stop saying Democratic-Socialism doesn't work. You don't get to just ignore the many places where it works wonderfully, while the USA continues to spiral into neo-Feudalism.