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Old 09-21-2015, 05:31 AM
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Regarding your post Worch I believe you specifically noted that the "racial mod" caused an additional jump which is what got you apprehensive faction from max scowling. Are you referring to dark elf mask and/or other illusion clicks that can be used for various old world factions? Because I know for a fact you can't get apphrensive from max scowling without an illusion click from your base race. That being said proclaiming the song is "to powerful" because it can be used in conjunction with an illusion just seems ridiculous. Post your faction results with no illusion, if you can break threateningly from max kos I'll be impressed.
Before (Max scowling Venril Sathir faction from hunting in howling stones. Race is DE due to mask.) and after (apprehensive) are below. Each race (and class & religion for that matter) is a modifier placed on top of the base value. There is an old post where a p99 dev explains how these mods work iirc. Changing your race doesn't change the base value of the faction -- it just uses a different faction-specific racial modifier (e.g. -500 for HE to +500 for DE, or whatever the actual values are for the Venril Sathir faction group).

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[Tue Apr 28 04:48:28 2015] a cliff golem scowls at you, ready to attack -- it appears to be quite formidable.
[Tue Apr 28 04:48:30 2015] a cliff golem looks your way apprehensively -- it appears to be quite formidable.
As a half elf, the song improves faction from max scowling -> threateningly.

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an undead foreman glares at you threateningly -- it appears to be quite formidable.
My point is that the dev making this fix should be cautious of overpowering the song. If we can make this song 2.5x stronger than it currently is, that is too powerful, given that the evidence presented said this song raises the faction 0 to 2 ranks.
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