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Originally Posted by Haynar
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Can anyone give me a reason, other than leveling faster, why not having an epic at low levels is game breaking? Help me understand this. Really.
I can see the red ganking noobs. But what else is there that makes having an epic at low levels important?
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I appreciate the willingness to participate in the conversation :P
It's not gamebreaking to not have an epic at low levels. I'm not really bothered by the change itself because I've never had an epic on this server in my 5 years of playing here.
What does concern me is the reasoning. There were lots of ways to get epics at low levels back in classic. They just weren't commonly used (or used at all) because in the long history of EQ, classic was a VERY short period and the vast majority of people who played during that window had no idea what they were doing.
An example. AoW never(ultra rarely?) died legitimately during Velious. Pretty sure he died day 2 of Velious here. The mechanics used to kill AoW were available back in classic. But they weren't used perfectly like they have been here. The spirit of classic would dictate that some un-classic changes be made to the encounter to ensure that AoW either cannot die practically will not die until custom content comes out.
The server is either classic, or its not. If you're aiming for classic, I would argue that there needs to be some kind of compelling in-game reason to make a non-classic change, like level requirements on epics. Compelling reason like the nerf on Ivandyr's Hoop. That actually was game breaking and needed to be fixed even if it wasn't classic to do so.
So is not having an epic at level 1 game breaking? No. Of course not. But is having an epic at level 1 game breaking? Not any more than having any other very powerful droppable loot at level 1. Epics aren't even BIS twink gear anymore for some classes. The absence of a "game breaker" compelling reason here should indicate that a non-classic change is not really appropriate.
Is this a giant change? Probably not. Not likely to affect a ton of people. Just seems like its going to ruffle more feathers than its worth. Doesn't make the game more classic and really hurts some people.
All that being said. Yep, its your sandbox. I'm just happy to be here.
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Edit: Added some examples. The following language was not in the original post. "Compelling reason like the nerf on Ivandyr's Hoop. That actually was game breaking and needed to be fixed even if it wasn't classic to do so." and "The absence of a "game breaker" compelling reason here should indicate that a non-classic change is not really appropriate."