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Originally Posted by Pint [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

to be fair there were 2 nobles that day and they knew there were 2 nobles that day until the ooa's despawned, they offered you a very fair agreement. you guys just didnt know how nobels work.

The deal was very fair from our perspective. However, on that note, I'm also not known for making overwhelmingly one-sided deals either. TMO had maintained Sky Sunday for years. When A-Team and Inglourious Bastards merged, we were very excited to no longer share a day (an agreement I enforced our leadership to uphold out of respect for both Cobblestone and Argh during their respective leadership phases). We had no interest in sharing Sunday any longer, however it appears my kindness is now being viewed as weakness as I elected to work out an arrangement that let Haggard Krew raid Sky uninterrupted on Sundays. Further, we told you that you could even raid during our time when we weren't going to be in Sky.

From our perspective, we were the bigger guild and it's not really Class-C's nature to believe that everything is up for 50/50 grabs. You didn't just automatically deserve 50% of all nobles that spawned on that day, we'd had that day for years and really had no reason to even share the day with you once A-Team moved on. That's not really native to just Class-C though. I'd have a hard time believing that even the larger Class-R guilds like Taken and BDA would feel you were entitled to 50% nobles as the 'new kids on the block'.

You were getting 50% of all nobles as long as there were 2 spawning on Sunday, and 50% of any third Noble. Additionally, you would have gotten every noble that we were in VP for for as long as mobs in VP were in window on Sundays. Effectively, you had a chance 3 nobles (100%) every Sunday. The only sacrifice was there would be some weeks you didn't get any, if there was only 1 spawning and VP mobs weren't in window.

To recap our conversation:

Sset,

Thanks for being patient and I apologize for keeping you hanging for so long. I ran a few ideas past the rest of leadership regarding the matter and this is what we felt would best suit us while still respecting the intentions of Haggard Krew's progression.

There can be multiple Nobles that spawn per day. As TMO has held Sunday for sky for several years now (most of that time we had the whole day), TMO feels most fair that we reserve the right to kill the first noble spawn on the day we share - Sunday. Should a second Noble spawn, Haggard Krew, then has the right to either engage it or pass it back to us. In the even of a third spawn, HK and TMO can rotate that one. In the event that HK passed on their second spawn and TMO engaged it, HK can take the third noble regardless of who is up in the rotation for that one or pass.

Also, regarding the first noble, I want to stress that on days we will not be going for noble, we will reach out to Haggard Krew and offer it to them.

Thoughts?

I'll pass this on to our raid leadership and let them know we've got something to work with.

Best of luck tonight,
TMO!

Also, I'd like to say, regardless of the outcome of our above negotiation, I appreciate the tone we both kept while dealing with the issue. Unfortunately, there are several others officers in Haggard Krew that don't follow your lead or appreciation for civility. My willingness to work anything out with anyone significantly decreases when your officers tell me or any of the officers of Forsaken "If you don't like it, you're going to deal with it".

Finally,

Originally Posted by Pint [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

also i doubt unbrella represents forsaken, hes prob just trolling.

I do and I'm not.