[Samoht]

Originally Posted by Mistle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It definitely does once the context of the players involved, regardless of the name above their head, is included. With the exception of one Omni character, the raiding Forsaken were composed entirely of raiders from a single class C guild (including at least one who didn't even bother to change the tag until after he was already actively attempting to gain FTE for Forsaken). This indicates that class C guild must ask for permission to drop to class R. Forsaken was a class C guild regardless of what tag they had decided to fly.




Your opinion is noted however the evidence presented against you is both valid and strong. I hope you will realize... eventually... that you are not the sole arbiter of what is valid or not. Anything else is just jamming your head in the sand.




Forsaken has different expectations because it is a class C guild composed of class C experienced and equipped players with a shared class C history raiding under a class C raid leader they have all played with and raided under before.

It is not whether or not BDA is capable of being in Class C, it is whether or not it unfairly dominates class R, which it does not.




Of course it serves a purpose, its the same purpose as putting the class system in place in the first place. If you don't agree with the class system, then you really have no standing to argue any of the particulars at all. In any event, the evidence presented that a daughter guild without any influx of outsiders is not a new guild is somewhere between very strong and overwhelming, and follows directly from something undeniable: what actually happened. Theorycrafted arguments tend to fall away at that point.

All you really have is "Rogean was wrong". Given the ruling, the burden of proof is on you to show how, and every element you've tried to bring up has met with overwhelming counterevidence. Or, to put another way, you've tried to show that Forsaken should be treated as a new entity but your argument is weak and unconvincing.

Get wrekt, Alarti. Third time in same thread.