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Originally Posted by Alarti0001
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Class doesn't have lockouts per se other than individual mob suspensions. Since you used lockouts in your statement about a class C guild I figured you were intending something along that line... since it would be inherently stupid to worry about lockouts on a class that doesn't.... have them.
If you want you can just throw suspension in there and remove lockouts altogether. As I said your question had a lot of inapplicable variables.
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Please describe these inapplicable variables as you see them. You've mentioned this three times but failed to point them out and explain why they are inapplicable.
Again, the question was this:
Can a group of players go from Class C to Class R en masse without waiting for the 30-day cooldown period by merely changing their guild and therefore escaping (purposely or not) any restrictions, lockouts, sanctions, suspensions, or other conditions applied to their original guild? Yes or no.
Let's break this down:
- Can a group of players go from Class C to Class R en masse
1) A large majority of TMO (Class C) formed up Forsaken and then killed Class R mobs. Fact, unless you're trying to tell us Forsaken is not TMO re-forming under a new guildtag.
2) Killing a Class R mob, unless your intention was to receive a suspension, implies that said group of players are in Class R.
- without waiting for the 30-day cooldown period
There is a 30-day cooldown period mandated by server staff going from Class C to Class R. Fact. The group of players being discussed did not wait 30 days before killing a Class R mob. Fact.
- and therefore escaping (purposely or not) any restrictions, lockouts, sanctions, suspensions, or other conditions applied to their original guild?
You've already conceded punitive measures should follow the players. There is no clean slate by your own acceptance that punitive measures should follow the players, correct?
But why stop there and just cherry pick punitive measures? Why not all restrictions/conditions/lockouts/rules of the server?
Furthermore, how am I cherry picking when I include ALL of that stuff?
What part of this question is not based reality? What variables do not apply?
That Forsaken is largely made up of ex-TMO?
That there is a 30-day cooldown period that was not observed?
That restrictions of their original guild should no longer apply, allowing players to circumvent the raid rules by vacating their guild?
Please help me understand by breaking it down for me. No diverting. No dodging. No changing the parameters of the question and then answering that. No whipping out debate terms to avoid addressing any of these points.