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Old 05-05-2015, 12:59 PM
paulgiamatti paulgiamatti is offline
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Originally Posted by Man0warr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
It takes weeks to get yourself unbanned even if you have logs of the transactions proving it was for PLing or MQing and you had no knowledge of where the plat was from. If you don't keep logs you may never get unbanned.
I had no logs and a very hazy recollection of the transaction that got me flagged in the last banwave, and it only took a couple days to get my account back. Granted, I did have to give them some pretty good ideas concerning which NPC was involved in the MQ, and who might have purchased it and when - and I had an EC Tunnel thread with a "sold" edit (dear lord, please bring back editing in the EC Tunnel forum) matching the timestamp of the transaction in question.

I very much doubt that anyone who's truly innocent runs the risk of being permabanned in a banwave. It might take a lot longer if you have absolutely no information to give them, or if you're being difficult and impatient. I could be wrong; the truth probably lies somewhere between us.

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I personally don't do plat transfers for non-guildies anymore because of this. It's not worth the risk.
Your intuitions about your guildies being clean-handed are probably off. I don't know which guild you're in, but as a rule of thumb this is usually the case - RMTers can be anywhere.

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Originally Posted by Man0warr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
There is a difference between giving out items to lowbies and large sums of plat.

It's not fear - it's literally something Sirken warned off in his post. They don't discriminate on banning people.
Point taken, but I wasn't really talking about helping out newbies - I was more talking about genuine large platinum and item transfers. Sometimes you really do need to unload 50k from your main to your mule, or transfer a CoF or a Fungi - I'd be disappointed if we ended up in an environment where literally everyone ignores transfer requests that come from outside their own guild, when the very same transfer coming from within their guild would run them the same risk.

Sirken wasn't suggesting we should never accept large sums/big items under any conditions whatsoever, he was just explaining that RMT banwaves are indiscriminate and each ban is reviewed on a case-by-case basis.

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Originally Posted by Man0warr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
If you don't keep logs and you get flagged for some reason, they are not going to unban you.
I can tell you from experience that this isn't true, but you should play as if it is. Everyone should have logging enabled; no exceptions.
Last edited by paulgiamatti; 05-05-2015 at 01:22 PM..