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Old 05-04-2015, 04:48 PM
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i agree that these men (the extremists) did not use their best judgement. they almost seemed like they were prepared with ARs and body armor, and how a single patrol officer took both of them out with nothing but a side arm screams that they just weren't trained well enough to carry out such an attack. but it's just going to escalate from here if hate groups continue to organize these kinds of rallies. next time, they will be trained. we can only hope that there are no civilian casualties.

as far as the first amendment is concerned, it only guarantees the right to peaceably assemble. if you're a hate group that's organizing rallies with the hopes that extremists will show up to fight, you are not protected by the first amendment. we need to stop issuing them permits and stop them from holding their rallies on public property.

the line that has to be drawn is that are we doing this as a free speech demonstration or is this an anti-muslim demonstration. this could easily spiral out of control with more and more anti-muslim rallies being held knowing that some extremists cannot peacefully accept that. if we continue to have them, what happens when foreign fighters trained in guerrilla warfare start appearing to actively combat them?

i do not have any problem with the way this played out. the loss of life is always tragic, but the decision had to be made to save civilian lives. i would support it every time. i just don't want to see it unnecessarily costing civilian lives just to bait out a few extremists that would have otherwise kept quiet and kept to themselves.
Umm, there's no rational reason to try and kill someone for drawing a cartoon.

If you do this in Texas in front of police, you get shot to death.

It's illegal to attempt murder. It's legal to draw cartoons of prophets. How is anyone in the wrong except those who showed up somewhere with solely a murderous intent. Telling these people they can't organize a cartoon-drawing event is catering to murderous extremists who believe it's acceptable to end a human life for drawing a cartoon of someone. The solution to the problem you lay out is for these kinds of people to NOT show up and try to murder everyone involved. What kind of yellow-bellied pussy are you?