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Originally Posted by DrKvothe
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I found the same to be true with SoW, IVU, and shrink pots on my blue sham. The cost from 21 to 70 to trivial shrink pots is easily recovered by selling sow, ivu, and shrink pots when lvling in dungeons (especially "outdoor" but cramped dungeons like KC where shrink pots are godly) or when visiting EC to buy or sell other items.
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Tailoring doesn't look bad at all. 82 skill til the guide tells you to start making the 10 slot backpacks, and you can farm the silks to get there yourself. This can be a decent passive source of money if you're gonna be sitting around selling your wares or yourself (port whore!) anyways.
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I'm not sure you read past the opening line of my last post so I'll highlight some important parts. I easily sold over 5kpp worth of shrink and IVU pots in KC for the couple of levels I was there. Only about 30% of that is profit, but that's more than enough to cover the costs of alchemy and make the time spent crafting worth the return on investment. If I'd started earlier, I could have made similar profits in CoM. I've sold quite a few of these pots in HS as well. All of this was done while leveling. It's quite easy to get mats quickly to you from anywhere if you have a druid alt, or to tunnel with a lvl 9 troll sham alt. SoW pots aren't usually worth the hassle, but sometimes people put in really big orders and make it worth your while. At the very least, they pay for themselves when going from 21 to 37 skill. I had a lot of customers who lvled in the sames zones as me /friend me and hit me up later for repeat orders. They're fed up of the EC tunnel bullshit too!
You don't have to sit in the EC tunnel to sell your stuff. Porting druids especially could build tailored bag advertisements into their port spam with little difficulty. Carry the mats around with you and make one whenever someone asks. Easy, passive profit that doesn't require any real amount of time away from what you're doing.
This works for other crafters too. Any time you're near a forge and some mail molds, you can make a set of banded armor in a couple of minutes. Take it with you, and sell it from where ever is most convenient while you do other things.
You will be spending time in EC anyways! This one seems intuitive enough. If you're there anyways to sell your crap, may as well have a larger selection of goods. Since working my alchemy, every single time I've visited EC to sell crap but didn't have any pots on me, I've regretted it.
You're eventually going to have stagnant cash anyways! Each class has a degree of gear investment after which the next 5k, 10k, or even 50k pp worth of gear only provide negligible benefits. If you've hit cash camps along the way, you'll reach this point in your 30s, if not then probably 40s. At this point, most of the cash you earn is just going to sit around until you reach the next cash breakpoint. For me those breakpoints were JBB (was 40k a year ago), fungi, and torpor. If it's going to take me 2 months of leveling to save 40k for a JBB, and alchemy can make back any money spent on it without even bothering with EC in just a week or two, then why not?
So when the community here warns new players away from tradeskills because it's a waste of time to sit in EC, it is misleading them. EC tunnel may be a waste of time (although there's few fat cats who don't camp it), but tradeskills themselves don't have to be. I didn't bother with alchemy until far too late thanks to advice like this from the forums, and I regret it.