If this turns into a flamewar, i will simply stop posting here, but I will have general conversation if this stays civil.
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Originally Posted by Stefen
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No offense, Molitoth, but everything you just said can be summed up in three words - "We sold out".
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Yes we did, and it was the best decision we could've made. We've been having fun killing end game dragons for months now, instead of stuck in the same hate/fear grinds a lot of guilds are. Continued....
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You accept that this server will never have a healthy raid environment while guilds are zerg recruiting. Instead of working on a solution, you sacrificed your ideal play style to help perpetuate the problem.
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There were many solutions discussed on these forums over the past year, all getting shot down and made fun of. Personally I think the best solution would be instanced planes. This gives any raid force a chance at raiding when they want to. Is it "carebear"? yes. Is it classic? no. But would it solve the problem? yes.
We have 50% of the people bitching that they can never raid anything due to the powerguilds and then you have 50% of the people saying that they enjoy the "race" or "competition" for a target. These GM's cannot please everyone, and when everyone is already torn in half, this doesn't leave much room for them to put in a solution. Instances are not going to happen.
Rotation will bore the shit out of most IB/DA/Divinty members and you're going to get a bunch of members quitting left and right. You know how long a rotation would be on this server? You can make a guild of 20 people and kill anything outside of Plane of Sky.
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If you enjoy a challenge, tell me, what exactly is the appeal of raiding with DA? 50+ people wiping to content that three groups can do, and now you've been exposed as using illegal third party programs to facilitate your mobilization. Is saying you've killed nagafen under those circumstance really something you'd want to celebrate?
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You have to understand that DA and IB's goals are to kill shit. People join these guilds because they get sick of clearing fear and hate trash over and over again. If these people don't go to DA, then they go to IB... and vice versa. DA could close recruitment, and turn everyone away that applies, but what will happen is all of the people will go to IB and eventually we will have burnout with people quitting and find ourselves without the members to compete with IB for boss kills. Is it more fun to kill bosses with less people? yes. You have to remember this game came out in 1999. Nothing is new here. I enjoy DA because of the hilarious people in the guild, and the mentality we go by. DA really isn't as bad as some people say they are. We get a bad rep because we kill all the bosses and have great mobilization. Haters are gonna hate. Does it have an unknown bad seed or two? yes, just like any guild, and trust us... this hurts us more than it helps us.
As expected, we know that what the cheater in our guild did is going to hurt our reputation as a whole and that is why we want no part in cheating. We are glad he is banned, and are glad that the GM's are taking action, because this was not just taking place in DA. It's taking place around the server, and it needs to stop. It's a shot to the face against all the trackers who actually sit there and mash thier track button like total losers.
Anyway, there is my take.