Can actually remember early days of when holo was getting up and going, and the original GW crew was getting ready to do something or just talkin in TS and someone would go wheres drakar? It always came back that he was exping or grouping with holo members.
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That reminds me, the early days of holocaust when there were no actual leaders and each one of you idiots had no idea who was doing what and when so dreyo, colgate, terp, wasp etc all had different answers or ideas to things the others had already agreed to. Who gave all the raw platinum, raid/pvp potions, TONS of gear and epic MQ pieces critical to the start of guild like holocaust at the time, a few dragon scales(not just red scales, but greens and whites) donal bps for the clerics to make encounters easier. All in all, Vaporize pretty much funded the start up of holocaust out of his generosity(before the whole strydur crown of rile deal was made, completely unrelated) and as I recall he considered Terp a good friend, and Wasp probably one of the few people in the guild that knew anything of PVE and raid mechanics.
I know some of the items made them to the right people, But I also know that majority of the guild including some of its own top players never even knew that the peridots, planar stones, raw platinum and gear they got handed before dragons died and loot was gained was given to them to get a real guild up and going. Kinda funny tbh, Even leading up to the crown of rile VP thing most of the guild was blind as to what Vapo did, expecting nothing in return. Only later for the pvp + guild raid help from GW for second crown(after terp got his, then was stripped/deleted and when MIA all connection to Vapo and GW ceased and this 'deal' got lost and apparently never happened) In reality again, The leaders realized they now zerged the shit out of the server and didn't need the 3(?!) GW players and could easily weasel out of any deal especially since terp was back in azeroth iirc while stripped/deleted and every answer from colgate was 'no idea' 'talk to drez' 'havent been on lately don't know'.
Rdy to pull SW? Hold on gotta go pickup my girlfriend brb 20mins(only monk on raid). Ready to pull hoshkar? BRB shower 15 minutes(thanks wasp and vapo for stepping up and pulling each time the great grandmaster afk'd when it was his time)
<tldr for you -> old drama -> skip past it
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