To an outsider, meaning a player who has been here a while and isn't in the raid scene, this whole thread just sounds like a bunch of children yelling. I know shits classic, but if anything has an effect on the population its all the childishness.
Holo, should not be forced to compromise their recruitment strategy. That's not even enforceable. Perhaps they need little more control over their members, and some more mature leaders. Those two things will decrease the chance of being punished for breaking rules, and keep them form engaging in petition quest.
AZ doesn't need to recruit more or even compromise their elitist attitude. They need better strategy and more patients, because playing petition quest isn't the answer for damn sure.
Here is my suggestion to AZ. Build better alliances...
Bat phone the folks that share your hate for the zerg. Use that combined strength to compete with Holo. If you can win a force LnS against Holo, you have won one fight and its on to the next.
Your allies should be fully aware that once Holo is down and out, they will still have to compete for the raid target.
You can't just force your enemies into disbanding their guild because you don't want to recruit the same way they do. That is retarded.
We don't need more rules! We don't need more petitions! You guys got to understand that Sirken has been bending over backwards to help the server out, and he is not trying to fire shots at anyone.
Sirken, you had the right idea but it may have been a bit sloppy on the delivery.
I'll try to polish if I may: Holo, you are recruiting a little more than you can handle. I think you are getting punished, because you can't communicate to members the proper way to compete for raids under the LnS and PnP. AZ, find a different strategy because you can't tell Holo how to recruit or win 60v20 60v30 or billionVfew.
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Originally Posted by Duckwalk
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Another thing, get the fuck out of here with the notion that twinks killing noobs (and groups) in rags is pvp.
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No! LnS bitches, Norrath is big enough and twinks will always happen. Unless you want level req. on gear. That shit is not classic.
People are going to play red and grow neck beards if they have the will to do so. You want more bluebies, then play nice. The people who jump onto red and get all griefy with out even reading the rules thread just don't have red blood in their hearts. I can't even count the number of times I've heard "what is LnS?" in ooc. I've even had tells after explaining LnS that "sounds like is too much work" or "i don't know where else to lvl". Sorry red is not for you then. That's not "get off my server". Its just "sorry learn to deal or I can't help you".