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Originally Posted by Hetjan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nilbog lies.

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Nilbog:

" I'll keep making classic changes when I can, regardless if people threaten to quit. I'm here to recreate classic eq; not to make people happy."

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But recreation of classic is making me happy. Thanks!

Thing that makes me most annoyed is folks who can't appreciate this enough to STFU when they feel like whining. Go away.

The thing that annoys me most is people crying about people simply expressing their opinion in a thread that asked for it.

Originally Posted by Mistle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Posts like this just illustrate what is meant by 'difficulty' or 'challenging' is completely missed by those who post them. No, maps did not make it easier to kill Nagafen for a raid already there. But without them, you can sure tell the difference between a player who knew SolB from one who didn't, couldn't you? The one who did was buffing people at giants while rogues drag the one who didn't from where they died to bats.

And that's what is being referred to. Things that allowed players to be differentiated from each other by their playing abilities, and that didn't just mean how much dps they did.

There WERE things that were pointless and safely removable without worry - spellbook meditation, for instance. But for the most part, convenience things that removed the need for players to become better players are not here and never will be here, and that's good. EQ was never about players who thought "being a perpetual noob" was a badge of honor. Classic EQ rewarded those who made an effort more than those who didn't, and that's what we want to maintain.

So basically removing the map allows you to more effectively be an an exclusionary elitest? That's the only benefit I can see from being able to tell who knows the layout of the area anymore. And how would using in game maps prevent a person from becoming a better player or from learning the areas any more than wiki maps do?

Also I am not saying I'm a perpetual newb and touting it as a badge of honor,I'm just being honest; I've never,not even in my years of live (late velious - gates of discord or Ldon, forget) made it to sixty and I am perpetually relearning the game.

Actually perhaps I should wear it as a badge of honor, means I haven't beens pending the last 20 years playing the same game [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Originally Posted by Buellen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

since said people who don't understand server goals will prob not read my wall of text.

read my signature under my character names.

qq we've read it all before doesn't mean we have to agree that adding maps = making eq easy. That was just one of the changes that came along with the changes that ruiend the game for you apparent oldschool hardcores, and you get butthurt at anything that resembles Luclin and beyond, regardless as to whether or not it's what actually ruined the game (it didn't)