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Originally Posted by nicol
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Given that there are members in both Azrael and Holocaust that are responsible for the epic & fungi'd twink griefers that have OOR healers follow them around in CB/Unrest/MM, I'm not sure how either guild can claim responsibility for the increased server health. That shit right there is what drives away new people from red and does not represent pvp.
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pretty sure that's the point. holocaust pretends to be something they are not. you don't see azrael claiming to be above doing any of the stuff you mentioned. I don't do it, but if other people want to and it's within the rules there isn't much to be done about it.
I make gear for new players, PL new players etc all the time. would rather see people gain some confidence and last on the server than grief them off.