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Old 01-19-2015, 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
I'm serious, no trolling here.



So your argument is that the entirety of the wage gap between men and women can be explained by women being stay at home moms?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Male%E2..._United_States




I misspoke (sorry, not a military person): instead of "branch" I meant "division" or "unit" or something. But women definitely can NOT do everything men can in the military:

http://www.military.com/special-oper...al-forces.html



So what if there was a mass clown-raping spree, and suddenly anyone with a red nose had to live in far more fear of being raped than everyone else; would it just be a "personal" issue for those clowns, or would it be a systemic clown problem?

EVERY woman is affected by rape, even if they are never themselves raped, because they have to live in fear of it. They are taught not to be alone at night, not to let themselves be alone with men, etc. It's like when police murder black people: they don't have to murder every black person to make black people start fearing the police.


And yet in societies where women are more equal the rape rate goes down, and in societies where women are less equal it goes up. Maybe it's NOT just an inherent, unavoidable thing, maybe it has to do with our societal gender roles.


How many barbies did you play with as a child? Children are socialized in to their gender roles from a very early age: if you track babies eye movements, you will find they pay more attention to men in women's clothing or vice versa, because before they can even speak they've already learned gender roles.

I promise you, there was nothing out on the savanah when we were evolving that looked like GI Joe or Barbie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]



So you don't think little girls practicing child rearing, dress up, baking, etc. while little boys practicing war, robots, etc. is going to have any effect whatsoever on how those two kids grow up? Really?


Then why do so many of them commit rape? There was a recent study done that asked "if you knew you would never get caught", would you A) "rape", and B) force a woman to have sex with you. Something like a third of the men answered yes to B), so clearly we as a society are teaching them something.
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Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
I'm serious, no trolling here.



So your argument is that the entirety of the wage gap between men and women can be explained by women being stay at home moms?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Male%E2..._United_States




I misspoke (sorry, not a military person): instead of "branch" I meant "division" or "unit" or something. But women definitely can NOT do everything men can in the military:

http://www.military.com/special-oper...al-forces.html



So what if there was a mass clown-raping spree, and suddenly anyone with a red nose had to live in far more fear of being raped than everyone else; would it just be a "personal" issue for those clowns, or would it be a systemic clown problem?

EVERY woman is affected by rape, even if they are never themselves raped, because they have to live in fear of it. They are taught not to be alone at night, not to let themselves be alone with men, etc. It's like when police murder black people: they don't have to murder every black person to make black people start fearing the police.


And yet in societies where women are more equal the rape rate goes down, and in societies where women are less equal it goes up. Maybe it's NOT just an inherent, unavoidable thing, maybe it has to do with our societal gender roles.


How many barbies did you play with as a child? Children are socialized in to their gender roles from a very early age: if you track babies eye movements, you will find they pay more attention to men in women's clothing or vice versa, because before they can even speak they've already learned gender roles.

I promise you, there was nothing out on the savanah when we were evolving that looked like GI Joe or Barbie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]



So you don't think little girls practicing child rearing, dress up, baking, etc. while little boys practicing war, robots, etc. is going to have any effect whatsoever on how those two kids grow up? Really?


Then why do so many of them commit rape? There was a recent study done that asked "if you knew you would never get caught", would you A) "rape", and B) force a woman to have sex with you. Something like a third of the men answered yes to B), so clearly we as a society are teaching them something.
Being stay at home moms is part of it, yes. Did it ever occur to you that perhaps some women who got their MBAs simply chose to start a family and not work because their husbands make enough for them to do that? Did you consider that women (because of genetic predispositions- again) are more likely to pursue careers like teaching, which have lower salaries than say business? Also that study by a feminist group DEFINITELY isnt biased or flawed in a way that would support the claims of feminists lol..


People who are raped are affected by rape. What youre saying devalues what they've been through by saying you suffer from the same thing. That's pretty narcissistic of you. When a cop shoots a black person, its because they're doing something like attacking a cop after robbing a convenience store. Not because theyre black. If you don't attack cops, you dont have to worry.



As far as the military goes.. Do you think you'd actually enjoy being shot at? I can tell you from experience it isn't very pleasant to have pieces of metal coming at you faster than the speed of sound. And you went so far as to mention special forces specifically lol. You would fucking die in training if you went up for marine recon. Men and women are different physically. You cannot deny that, nor can you reasonably blame men for evolution. Your testosterone levels are dwarfed by male standards. Testosterone is the hormone that promotes muscle growth and aggressiveness. Women simply aren't designed for the same levels of physical exertion as men. A combat zone devoid of backup is not the place for you to get that fact through your head.



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You're really proving my point about natural disposition here. Back when we were evolving women were still women, even without barbies. It wasn't like everyone was butch before the invention of the doll. In fact i can almost guarantee that instances of rape were FAR more common then. Let's use your logic and say that barbie dolls actually decrease the chances of someone being raped.



You say maybe women should be more aggressive and take what they want like supposedly males are taught to do, yet all you do is cry about it in an elf sim forum in stead of taking your own advice. If there ARE women-specific issues that need to be addressed, maybe its women's fault for not doing anything but whining about them.


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Then why do so many of them commit rape? There was a recent study done that asked "if you knew you would never get caught", would you A) "rape", and B) force a woman to have sex with you. Something like a third of the men answered yes to B), so clearly we as a society are teaching them something.

Or maybe your totally 130% legit non-biased definitely not fabricating results to push a political agenda feminist organizations are just lying to rustle your petticoat because that's how they make money. "so many of them" don't commit rape. I've known hundreds of other males and none of us are or were rapists.. So where are these frothing hordes of chest-beating rapist baboons you're referring to?

Susan B Anthony would slap the teeth out of you. Youre a satirical caricature of actual feminism and you should be absolutely ashamed.