[Secrets]

Originally Posted by Valakut [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

can confirm server is a shit hole. banned once for "inappropriate name" with no warning although the character creation setup allowed it. banned a second time for 3 boxing with a friend because "we cannot trust your word" that it was only 3 boxes per person which is technically allowed in their rules.

not sure why but the gms running the player interaction side of things seem to be inept at resolving player issues transparently and fairly. extreme action is the first and only action ever taken and your guilty until proven innocent.

recommend avoiding it for minimum 6 months until the dust settles cause there are internal issues outside of the code that need to be resolved before the server is viable.

Here's that transparency you wanted:

Assuming you're the same person who came into the IRC chat that I happened to pop in to see what was going on tonight. I'm pretty drunk, but it went something like this:

[10:16pm] Secretsphone joined the chat room.
[10:16pm] jeffray: 3 boxing is cheating?
[10:16pm] Zarwayne: no; 4-6 boxing is
[10:16pm] jeffray: you dont even know what was going on
[10:16pm] jeffray: and i wasnt 4-6 boxing
[10:16pm] Zarwayne: it's your "friends"
[10:16pm] jeffray: 2 people = 3 people each
[10:16pm] Zarwayne: they use your accounts... yeah right
[10:17pm] jeffray: bullshit
[10:17pm] jeffray: check the ip
[10:17pm] jeffray: i dont give a fuck to 6 box
[10:17pm] jeffray: say what you want but now you are just slandering me with false shit
[10:17pm] Satan: caught in a corner, that's what they do
[10:17pm] jeffray: and im clearly not the only one here that sees this
[10:18pm] stairs: im so happy i made this popcorn
[10:18pm] Furst: maybe we wont be the most hated people on the server now
[10:19pm] Furst: *too far
[10:19pm] Secretsphone: im at a bar but uh apparently you can use a vpn to bypass ip restrictions. which, might be the issue here if you were using an open proxy
[10:20pm] Secretsphone: not my problem but i wouldnt use a proxy to bypass restrictions.
[10:20pm] jeffray left the chat room. (Ping timeout: 182 seconds)
[10:21pm] Secretsphone: should give them a heads up ahead of time
[10:21pm] Secretsphone: o ok
[10:21pm] stairs: RIP jeffray
[10:21pm] stairs: going ot miss him
[10:21pm] stairs: what a trooper
[10:21pm] Furst: i miss that gilgamesh guy
[10:22pm] Secretsphone: lol
[10:22pm] Secretsphone: nilbog messaged me earlier
[10:22pm] kilroy: i'm sorta skeptical about those guys not being related.
[10:23pm] Secretsphone: said this drama reminded him of 09 p99
[10:23pm] robregen: yeah
[10:23pm] Furst: the mob feeds off of drama
[10:24pm] kilroy: i wonder what would have happened if he'd acted like a normal, rational human being and just gone along with what zarwayne was saying.
[10:24pm] kilroy: interesting to think about.
[10:24pm] Furst: i think the same thing when I see those police videos
[10:24pm] Furst: that get posted on worldstar hiphop
[10:25pm] Zarwayne: if he woulda gona along with it i had every intention of asking speedz to condense his characters into 3 accounts and unban 3 accounts... he got pissy and well now we dont deal with that.
[10:25pm] jeffray joined the chat room.
[10:25pm] jeffray: why keep booting me
[10:25pm] stairs: LORD JEFFRAY HAS RETURNED
[10:26pm] Zarwayne: awesome
[10:26pm] jeffray: ?
[10:26pm] Zarwayne: you Pinged out, i don't have permissions to ban or boot you
[10:26pm] Secretsphone: no one booted you
[10:26pm] Furst: * jeffray (potato@9B10B630.2A2918C0.627C4875.IP) Quit (Ping timeout: 182 seconds)
[10:27pm] Secretsphone: 182 second ping timeout
[10:27pm] jeffray: k
[10:27pm] Furst: maybe its the proxy
[10:27pm] Secretsphone: well that would explain his irc ip change
[10:27pm] jeffray: so zarwayne you are the one who banned me ?
[10:27pm] Zarwayne left the chat room. (Leaving)
[10:27pm] jeffray: lol
[10:29pm] Furst: pretty sure they said it was a script
[10:29pm] jeffray: a script despawns my camp?
[10:29pm] jeffray: doesnt make sense
[10:29pm] stairs: if you kill a mob the ydespawn
[10:29pm] jeffray: yeah
[10:29pm] jeffray: too bad i didnt kill it
[10:30pm] stairs: you might have did you ask the mob?
[10:30pm] jeffray: it despawned in my face and Themidget admitted
[10:30pm] Secretsphone: ?
[10:30pm] jeffray: who here is actually a GM?
[10:30pm] jeffray: is anyone?
[10:30pm] stairs: we are a democratic republic
[10:30pm] stairs: everyone is a GM
[10:32pm] Secretsphone: nope not here. just a coder
[10:32pm] Secretsphone: dont do disciplinary stuff
[10:32pm] stairs: unless its in the bedroom
[10:32pm] Secretsphone: lol
[10:33pm] jeffray: this is pointless
[10:33pm] robregen: I am just a contents lead and attends guide stuff if needed.
[10:33pm] Secretsphone: well, what did you expect coming into a development channel
[10:34pm] jeffray: an answer from a team
[10:34pm] robregen: if I were you. I would be patience and not go around throwing out your anger
[10:34pm] jeffray: lol
[10:35pm] Secretsphone: what team? you got banned on a server using our code
[10:35pm] Secretsphone: we are devs. not csrs.
[10:35pm] jeffray: your GMs are fucking with players and banning people
[10:35pm] Secretsphone: they arent our gma
[10:35pm] Secretsphone: gms*
[10:35pm] jeffray: lol
[10:36pm] jeffray: what kind of server is this
[10:36pm] stairs: a fun one
[10:36pm] stairs: if you dont hack
[10:36pm] robregen: it's a development server
[10:36pm] Secretsphone: a github repository
[10:36pm] Secretsphone: you can download and set up your own server if you want
[10:37pm] robregen: and invite your friend and family to come play with you
[10:37pm] kilroy: you could even 6 box with your alternate personalities 'satan' and 'gilgamesh'
[10:37pm] robregen: we even have rules set up so you can have all the glorified bugs that was on AK
[10:37pm] robregen: lol
[10:39pm] jeffray left the chat room. (Ping timeout: 182 seconds)
[10:39pm] Secretsphone: heh
[10:39pm] stairs: aww he was more fun when he was mad
[10:40pm] fifidong: you guys are driving all the fun people away
[10:40pm] Secretsphone: i just dont know why anyone would come into a dev channel and ask about a server that someone hosts using our code
[10:40pm] Secretsphone: seems pointless
[10:41pm] kilroy: and lie + get upset at that.
[10:41pm] kilroy: good way to get what you want.
[10:43pm] jeffray joined the chat room.
[10:44pm] jeffray: where is gm channel
[10:45pm] fifidong: not sure. I only saw link for coding channel,
[10:46pm] jeffray: and you guys really think im supposed to believe a script banned me?
[10:46pm] Secretsphone: there is no gm channel
[10:46pm] jeffray: does your script have a character that shows up in game and chats?
[10:46pm] stairs: yes
[10:46pm] Secretsphone: what ban? you can see github right?
[10:47pm] fifidong: code/scripts/etc are here: https://github.com/cavedude00/Server all visible.
[10:47pm] fifidong: mostly visible.
[10:47pm] jeffray: cool
[10:47pm] Secretsphone: we dont run a player server here, we develop the means needed to dev your own server
[10:47pm] jeffray: i dont care about programming
[10:48pm] fifidong: still trying to find the MYSQL username and password, so I can hit 50.
[10:48pm] stairs: i do
[10:48pm] jeffray: then why is your server called al kabor project
[10:48pm] stairs: 101001001111001001000101000111111001001010000101
[10:48pm] Secretsphone: its not our server
[10:48pm] jeffray: and ban me as well as others too?
[10:48pm] jeffray: lol
[10:48pm] jeffray: i feel like im talking to 10 year olds
[10:49pm] stairs: gilamesh said i was 14
[10:49pm] fifidong: 101001001111001001000101000111111001001010000101 = ��E��
[10:49pm] Secretsphone: there are tak people here, but maybe you should post on their forums?
[10:49pm] jeffray: uh
[10:49pm] stairs: 01110100 01101111 01110101 01100011 01101000 00100000 01101101 01111001 00100000 01100100 01101111 01101110 01100111
[10:49pm] jeffray: last time i was in here i said i couldnt access the forum
[10:50pm] stairs: then zarwayne tried to help you
[10:50pm] jeffray: maybe you should listen to people's problems? satan guy said the same thing too
[10:50pm] Secretsphone: well, that isnt something the coders here have access to fix
[10:50pm] stairs: and you shat on his tacos
[10:50pm] jeffray: zarwayne slandered me and accused me of hacking
[10:50pm] Secretsphone: then take it up with him on tak
[10:50pm] fifidong: 0x48656c6c6f20576f726c6421
[10:50pm] Secretsphone: this isnt the tak irx
[10:50pm] Secretsphone: irc
[10:51pm] Secretsphone: im not sure they have one
[10:51pm] Secretsphone: sorry
[10:51pm] jeffray: zarwayne didnt ban me
[10:51pm] jeffray: Themidget did
[10:51pm] jeffray: so you are not really helpful
[10:51pm] Secretsphone: dont know who that is
[10:52pm] jeffray: and judging by the p99 forums, im not the only one with this problem
[10:52pm] Secretsphone: what problem?
[10:52pm] Secretsphone: you can view the github page
[10:52pm] Secretsphone: thats all we maintain here
[10:52pm] jeffray: getting banned for nothing and having GMs mess with me
[10:52pm] Secretsphone: no game servers
[10:52pm] jeffray: dude i dont care about your stupid code
[10:53pm] stairs: yes you do
[10:53pm] stairs: or you wouldn’t be butthurt
[10:53pm] jeffray: your code did not talk to me in game
[10:53pm] Secretsphone: but thats why im curious as to why
[10:53pm] Secretsphone: you think coders can handle an issue on a server we dont run
[10:54pm] Secretsphone: so...
[10:54pm] jeffray: you have a GM character?
[10:54pm] Secretsphone: yes, for debugging crashes
[10:54pm] jeffray: you are in the fucking game as a GM?
[10:54pm] stairs: hes an aviak
[10:54pm] fifidong: Yo jeffray, seriously though. This is "everquest emulation development" channel.
[10:54pm] jeffray: run it locally then and stop being useless to people who support your server by playing on it when they have an issue?
[10:54pm] stairs: a red one
[10:54pm] Secretsphone: sure
[10:54pm] stairs: kida neat
[10:55pm] stairs: if you have never seen an aviak
[10:55pm] stairs: she*
[10:55pm] Secretsphone: but some issues can only be fixed and experienced in a live env
[10:55pm] Secretsphone: so.. moot point
[10:55pm] jeffray: yeah
[10:55pm] jeffray: everything youve said has been moot
[10:55pm] stairs: i just made an npc on my local server named jeffray
[10:55pm] stairs: hes talking to me
[10:56pm] Secretsphone: i dont have powers to do anything except debug
[10:56pm] jeffray: banned from forums and game
[10:56pm] Secretsphone: so wrong person
[10:56pm] jeffray: and you tell me to PM them on forums
[10:56pm] kilroy: secrets has the powers to sit and stand really fast
[10:56pm] jeffray: you arent very bright
[10:56pm] stairs: so you are asking us to solve a problem we can’t solve
[10:56pm] stairs: maybe you are not very “bright"
[10:56pm] Secretsphone: well, neither are you coming in a dev channel asking for csr help
[10:56pm] jeffray: you dont have a CSR
[10:57pm] jeffray: and you are all GMs on this server
[10:57pm] stairs: then why are you bitching
[10:57pm] jeffray: the next logical thing to think of is to come here and talk with one
[10:57pm] Secretsphone: csr = gm
[10:57pm] Furst: this is totally wall of shame worthy
[10:57pm] Furst: stairs is the GM of A&H
[10:57pm] jeffray: wall of shame? this is why developers need team leaders
[10:57pm] fifidong: I do not thing GMs have access to USER_table.
[10:58pm] Secretsphone: we dont heh
[10:58pm] jeffray: keep telling yourself that
[10:58pm] Secretsphone: wouldnt want it anyways
[10:58pm] fifidong: think*
[10:58pm] fifidong: I vote Gilgamesh as the team leader.
[10:58pm] stairs: i vote for satan
[10:59pm] kilroy: are you sure he's the right man for the job? he's a 'digital gangster' . . . sounds scary.
[10:59pm] Secretsphone: anyways - do you need help setting up a server or can i go back to drinking my yuengling
[10:59pm] fifidong: Detroiter from Los Angeles.
[10:59pm] jeffray: thanks, just looking for a GM since none of you guys are GMs
[10:59pm] stairs: Zarwayne is a Gm
[10:59pm] jeffray: zarwayne isnt the one who banned me
[10:59pm] jeffray: we've gone through this
[10:59pm] kilroy: you should look deep into your soul, introspect and find the one true path. it's jesus.
[11:00pm] Secretsphone: well post on their forums
[11:00pm] jeffray: no
[11:00pm] Furst: can i get a yuengling
[11:00pm] Secretsphone: ok, then get out of the channel
[11:00pm] Secretsphone: ya sure
[11:00pm] jeffray: no
[11:00pm] kilroy: delete your cookies, change your ip, it isn't very hard to get around whatever is preventing you from posting there.
[11:00pm] Furst: we got them in ohio now, pretty damn good
[11:00pm] stairs: better yet EAT YOUR COOKIES
[11:01pm] jeffray: or you could just refer me to who is actually a "CSR" here
[11:01pm] stairs: you need to post on the forums to get a CSR
[11:01pm] Secretsphone: idk, dont run that server. speedz and zarwayne work on tak
[11:01pm] jeffray: and the guy who actually banned me
[11:02pm] kilroy: maybe if you'd talked to zarwayne like a normal adult human instead of pasting everything that was said into the public channel they would have helped you resolve your issue. just a thought.
[11:03pm] kilroy: but what do i know, i'm not too bright.
[11:03pm] fifidong: plus you are 14.
[11:03pm] fifidong: or 10.
[11:03pm] fifidong: +
[11:03pm] fifidong: *3/28.02.
[11:04pm] fifidong: cat
[11:04pm] jeffray: zarwayne called me a cheater and he doesnt even know the situation at all
[11:04pm] jeffray: seems like a dick
[11:04pm] jeffray: server is a joke
[11:04pm] kilroy: okay, bye. have a good night.
[11:05pm] stairs: coming to a channel full of coders to bitch about a csr issue is a joke
[11:05pm] kilroy: have fun on the p1999 boards, valakut.
[11:05pm] jeffray: then name your channel something else
[11:05pm] kilroy: scapeshift is a noob deck btw
[11:05pm] stairs: this channel is older then the tak project
[11:05pm] jeffray: than*
[11:06pm] Furst: pegmac =/= tak project
[11:06pm] Secretsphone: ^
[11:06pm] Furst: peqmac*
[11:07pm] Secretsphone: peqmac is accurate for describing the code
[11:07pm] Secretsphone: peq devs, mac client. peqmac
[11:08pm] robregen: it all derived from peq folks. with Secrets leading the netcode and the pc client
[11:10pm] jeffray: well work harder because this server already has a shit ton of negatives and not talking about code issues
[11:11pm] stairs: yea we had some buffer overflows
[11:11pm] stairs: that were overflowing to negatives
[11:11pm] stairs: but i think they are fixed
[11:11pm] Secretsphone: i will code better GMs right away
[11:12pm] Secretsphone: because thats something i can totally do
[11:12pm] Furst: have you seen the will smith movie called AI
[11:12pm] Secretsphone: ya
[11:12pm] Furst: we dont want that to happen

Now, is it completely irrational of the GMs of this server to offer to fix your ban issue, and have you go off on them instead of working with them on your issue, whilist complaining in a development channel that you have issues that no one there can resolve due to access restrictions? I'd imagine so.