By Orruar's request:
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Originally Posted by Raev
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Well Grader, how about you form a new tech startup and hire all of these women?
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It's actually Gradner, not Grader.
I work at a software company, and I'm actually pretty happy with my position here. For that reason alone, I'm not that interested at the moment in starting my own business. If I did, I probably would hire a lot of women and their gender wouldn't be a factor in their wage, their work would be. I probably would do pretty well.
We also have no women in technical positions at my company. Isn't that weird?
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Originally Posted by Raev
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Logic suggests
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Logic actually suggests that if I pay standard male wage to these women based on their performance, then my company would perform at exactly the same level as my competition. I'm not getting better performance for less money, I'm getting the same performance for the same amount of money as my male dominated peers in the industry.
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Originally Posted by Raev
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tech startup
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Funny Raev should bring up the tech industry, as I think the article that started this whole crappy thread can actually shed a bit of light on that. I think there's a lot of misplaced anger from the shut-ins that populate the industry. A lot of women have their work scrutinized in a different light by people who maybe aren't the most socially stable managers and co-workers given that the spergy nerd persona is quite common in these environments. I've seen it at game-jams and other programming events far more than in work environments, but if they can act like that in a social situation, it's inevitable that it will pervade their professional life as well. I suspect that women are either pushed out or uninterested in getting involved in a lot of these situations.
That's just my personal experience, might not be indicative of the whole. Even if my assertions are totally baseless, it's ridiculous to say that women don't have the aptitude to be as good at programming as men, and the numbers, both in the wage gap and just sheer employee numbers is staggering in tech.
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Originally Posted by Raev
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if you pay them a male wage, you'll get all of the best female programmers on the planet
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As Loramin had mentioned, corporate culture goes a long way as well. They have to want the job, so it has to be a good job at a good company for anyone - male or female - to be interested. I can't just hang out my wallet and watch the womens swarm to it. That's actually a pretty sexist notion in and of itself.
Evacuating troll thread.
Why y'all hate women?