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Originally Posted by katrik
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Modern Feminism sucks.
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IMO
Second wave feminism is the only feminism that wasn't fascism under another name. The new third wave is absolute garbage.
This is what a real, intelligent, respectable feminist looks like.
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Originally Posted by loramin
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Feminism is just believing that women and men deserve equal rights; unless you're still living in the 50s you're probably a feminist.
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No, that's Egalitarinism. Feminism has been co-opted by puritanical fascists that have been changing laws and policies to suit their dogmatic agendas across including but not limited to: Academia, court, and entertainment.
2nd wave feminism achieved its goals. 3rd wave feminism will not be satisfied until everyone with a Y chromosome is exiled from the planet. This is not an exaggeration.
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I can agree with this, but at the same time it seems like as feminism as a movement progresses and encroaches upon new frontiers, there becomes less ground to cover and the movement necessarily becomes more radicalized in the process. I think what the author was mainly trying to say is that people like Scott Aaronson are scrutinizing a very niche, very radical and very Dworkinesque take on feminism, when in reality none of the people he associates with would agree with her viewpoints or perhaps even claim to be feminists at all.
In today's internet age, where the writing of Andrea Dworkin can be easily popularized and widely disseminated, it's not difficult to find it being hailed as scripture and reblogged and quoted out of context where a more moderate and pragmatic application of feminism would be more appropriate, and more digestible. It's easy to see why a very large part of the feminist movement has become driven by an in-group/out-group kind of mentality - you're either with them or against them - and why there is such an astounding level of reproach the likes of which we saw in GamerGate and continue to see in various forums such as Reddit's men's rights advocacy.
That's not to say extreme feminism isn't necessary in its own regard; in the face oppression and subjugation and an unquestionably patriarchal society, it is the most appropriate response. Does that mean every woman's experience with these things is the same as Andrea Dworkin's? Absolutely not. Does it mean every man's experience with women is the same? Do I need to answer that question?
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Ah "The Patriarchy" the go to when you have no evidence to back up any of your claims.
Yes, tell us how systematically oppressed women are with all of the affirmative action plans that work to get men hired over women who might have superior skillsets, or how the men get custody of their children and get paid alimony over 95% of the time or how women getting raped in prison is seen as a joke. If you can't tell, that is sarcasm because the patriarchy doesn't exist and I'd eat my words if you can give one example of a right that men have in the west that women don't.
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