[Patriam1066]

Why does this keep becoming a Christian vs atheist debate. Newsflash guys, even if Yall loathe each other, 99.9999% of the time it doesn't result in violence.

People can be democrats, republicans, Mormons, Buddhists, atheists, agnostics, jews, catholics, baptists, socialists .... Whatever. The overwhelming majority of the time ALL of these groups think that freedom of speech, religion, education, etc, are good things. In other words, these ideologies arent injerently incompatible with the important cultural values of the western world. Islam is. A system that is so archaic that it forces women to cover their heads to not tempt men is clearly retrograde to the point that it would naturally breed radicals, and the evidence seems to support the fact that it creates extremists in droves.

Either way, regardless of whether you're a theist like myself and don't understand leftist thought and atheism, or whether you're a left wing atheist who can't understand how someone could be like me, I hope we're all wise enough to understand that we can coexist peacefully. If Charlie Hebdo drew a cartoon shitting on my religion, I'll be honest, Id be offended. But I really wouldn't care after about 15 seconds of mild indignation. Whatever you'd like to say about Christian or secular post Christian western culture, you should understand that both systems are 75% identical in values and are BOTH under assault by the growth of islam in the West.

As for the final solution shit, please, I'm never going to kill a muslim, unless I had to in self defense. If you muslims would direct your outrage towards your own slimy imams keeping women in shackles and children ignorant and uneducated we wouldn't even have to have this discussion in the first place. But keep pretending that Lune posting a somewhat offensive statement on a forum is the problem, instead of the authorities of my homeland (Iran) interpreting a 1400 year old book LITERALLY to make laws. You'd think you'd be more worried about the system that breeds rapists and child murderers rather than the backlash from people who naturally think those things are evil.