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Originally Posted by wycca [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Chest, TMO wasn't wiped. A few dead =/= wipe. We had a raid force of 18-22 camped at the ramp waiting for the chaos from IB/Taken to dissipate, and we had another 2-3 groups at zone in waiting. That's what made the decision to pull to ZI with the rules in place a bad one. There was another guild in the zone and they had an engage-capable force at the zone in that you pulled to. Thus the responses you're getting.

This is why nobody else had the idea to pull to zone-in, the basics are that you're in danger of a suspension if there's any competition in the zone who happens to be there. It's just not worth it. I'm guessing if there were 4 guilds competing, and all 3 had actually wiped, it wouldn't be an issue, but while 2 guilds did wipe, the 3rd did not, and now you are hearing raid rules discussed instead of how lol it was 3 guilds wiped and you got the kill.

If you didn't realize TMO hadn't wiped (which appears to be the case), then you really just need some better raid intelligence going and to keep closer track on /who's, corpses, and FTE messages (hint - it's hard for TMO to be wiped when we didn't get a real FTE message and had a handful of corpses, but had ~30+ cycle into the zone).

Sounds to me like you're just pissed you got leapfrogged, the signature TMO move.