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Originally Posted by Jauna
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Wasnt bards AoE/DoT kiting nerfed mid-kunark? I remember this getting nerfed hard way back when and is still in effect today where moving mobs dont take bard DoT damage
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They nerfed moving DoT damage during Kunark, but it effected everybody the same; 66% for moving, 100% for feared/rooted. Bard AE kiting was nerfed in 2004, no idea what expansion though.
https://forums.station.sony.com/eq/i...ng-nerf.97320/
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ARCHIVED-inque_adu_vz, Sep 3, 2004
Brenlo speaks at EQDiva regarding the nerfing of Swarm-Kiting abilities in an upcoming Live patch:
Howdy folks,
This will indeed be a change that makes it to the Live servers, during our next scheduled update on September 14th.
We feel that the current implimentation of AE kiting gave bards an unfair advantage in experience gain. It is our opinion that the changes currently on test will resolve this issue, while retaining both the Bards solo abilities and raid utility.
Sorry folks but no more kiting 20 mobs at a time.
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Here's the actual patch from September 14, 2004:
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/hist...es-2004-2.html
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- Bard PBAoE spells will no longer damage targets that are moving,
however any other spell effects from the PBAoE spell will still be
applied to the targets as usual.
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If you keep reading...
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They fix something that 4 bards per server total do, but are not touching the absolute unadulterated hacking that goes on regularly.
ARCHIVED-Astrall-TZ, Sep 9, 2004
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Not classic but I giggled.
Just to be fair, I wanted to find the oldest post I could for AOE/PBAE/AE Kiting.
http://thedruidsgrove.org/archive/eq/t-251.html
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Tilien Venator 07-24-2003, 07:06 PM
Seen bards Swarming 25-30 mobs in Fire, getting 6aap per kite. Was sick seeing him calling out ding every couple of ticks.
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kineada 07-25-2003, 12:22 PM
We used to have low AA knights or clerics group with our bards during off hours and PL them. Our bards laugh at us when we tout off obout getting an AA every 30mins grouping at first castle.
Of course, this was nerfed. Now, bards can only kite 10 mobs at a time. Which roughly equates to 3 AA's every 30mins in PoFire. None of our bards do this anymore by the bye. I think after the novelty wore off, they went back to drinking heavily while singing some ditty about Fennin Ro.
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PoFire AE kiting was what I was referring to on page ~3. Sounds like it was nerfed before Sept 2004 to limit number of mobs? Still not classic, but I still don't see any tangible proof that more than a handful would AE kite on Live. On the plus side, here's some PL proof...in PoP.
Soo I kept digging, and found in this druid PBAE Guide:
https://web.archive.org/web/20030518...picID=88.topic
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ordieth117 (4/30/02 10:29 pm)
PBAE kiting Bards have been doing this for a while. It's tough. The timing has to be -exact-, that's for sure, and we tend to do it on unsnared mobs (no long lasting snare). I have tried on greens in EJ, and I get pretty beat up doing it, but it sure is fun.
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So at least as far back as 2002/Luclin, but we still need a better answer for what "for a while" is. Again I get the vibe these bards are kiting greens/farming with AE kiting, not Exping.
Also, call me a conspiracy theorist, but I find it hard to believe Thott wouldn't have written about AE kiting if it were popular. Seems like it would've made a fun graph.
http://www.afterlifeguild.org/Thott/powercurves.php
Anyways, I'll keep looking since I'd rather do this than work, though the crowd's gone.