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Originally Posted by AnOldEnemy
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Yes, that was my fault in my wording. I didn't mean to explicitly state you said the NYPD was overzealous or killing everyone. I was more talking about the general reactions. As far as the chokeholds go it is one of those things that is a rule that isn't really followed. Internal Affairs won't pursue it 99% of the time and civil lawsuits won't get anything out of it because the state law trumps in that case. Even the whole argument about what really constitutes a chokehold is a grey area. In the academy officers are actually taught certain moves that resembled chokeholds but stay away from the neck and throat. I believe their idea of a chokehold is force to neck which they think is different than pressure to the neck. You can see how this is so convoluted.
This also wasn't death by asphyxiation, the coroner's finding was that he died from "compression of chest and prone positioning during physical restraint by police.” It was also stated that this could have been due to the man's medical condition. You can see how defense lawyers would have a field day with this and no prosecutor wants to open up the Pandora's box of prosecuting cops in such a gray area.
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Yeah I don't think so. When someone has been subdued and is already on the ground and obviously can't breath because he has multiple grown men bearing down on him and one choking him, plus he's begging them to stop because he can't breath, that's not very gray. I don't care what any lawyer or grand jury says, the dud choking him needs to be charged.