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Old 11-12-2014, 06:02 PM
Lazie Lazie is offline
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Originally Posted by Snizatcher [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
You need to understand you're not the only one on your team. I haven't had many interactions with TMO or IB since the rotation. But before it, I have some pretty shitty memories of doing vox and having a raid force ready to engage and being trained by a female monk over and over to give TMO time to get more people into Perma. She even had the nerve to explain how proud she was of her actions. She was given a much deserved short vacation. That is a reflection on her. However, it is the thought that she was proud of what she was doing because it was helping her guilds chances that rubbed me the wrong way. I had never experienced that kind of shit before. No one is faultless or special here. However, now it only really happens between C guilds or at FFA targets. That means there is one common denominator in each of these equations that I will let you figure out.

That is what Chest keeps trying to stress. Not that there is some evil empire or some grand conspiracy, that's Anthrax's job. The shit we all complain about, even TMO and IB comes from the toxic nature of FFA targets. How that makes him crazy or hypocritical I will never understand.

Everytime IB or TMO petitions or fraps the other guild training or doing something "against the rules" and complains about it, you are further proving his point. Not your own.

The red guys are 100% right. This isn't a problem on red because there are inherent mechanics that just don't allow for this to happen. It doesn't fix the problem of having one PvE guild dominating the server for a long time (nihilum) so that servers mechanics are far from perfect.
I'm not getting into this discussion again today. I respect that you took the time to type all that out and I read it. I just think it's the grey area rules that causes most of the problems. That's why I never risk it. If anything comes close to hitting that grey area I am one of the first to say. "We gotta give this one up". We need concrete rules with no room for manipulation. Because even our GM's aren't perfect. They try to make the best decisions, but sometimes their interpretation of events may not be what actually happened.