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Originally Posted by yevea [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

^^^ Pretty much what Niedar just said above.

EL is full of new people (myself included) from what I can tell, and the toxic culture bullshit is what pulled most of us to not join Holocaust. I'm yet to see our raid attendance go over 30, we generally are around 20-30 range consistently.

There seems to be a lot of bullshit thrown from either side about what EL is, and what the relationship between EL and AZ is. EL works with AZ in very limited situations, and we all understand that it is temporary. We couldn't break into the port house in Hate one evening, AZ sent up a group to clear it, rez us, and then left.

We had problems with DPS for Fay, AZ had a couple dps come help us make attempts.

Are some AZ alts in EL? Probably. Are they making the calls or summoning 20 Azrael at a moments notice to our aid? No. The most assistance we've been offered by AZ was to break into hate. I've never had any other direct contact with them, and I've been on every raid since I've been tagged as of two weeks ago.

Oh yeah, we did join them to help contest in KC. We were on our own teamspeak, we were there to help them, knowing there was a serious number advantage to Holo. After that was clearly won by Holo numbers, we grouped up, and did a series of epic fights for our mid 50s. We'll probably continuing helping them contest in fights when they ask. We don't have a shot in hell at hitting KC / Trak solo yet, we probably aren't even in double digits of 60s.

EL scum.