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Originally Posted by M.J.
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First Scenario
Been in a camp for a hour or two, I'm a wimpy ass caster that visits a vendor in a zone to convert coin and sell as often as old people visit the bathroom. Between respawns I gate to vendor, up run back because I'm a peasant without Jboots (this is a lie, but making hypothetical lowbie sympathetic to the max) and a mob that has been up for less than 10 seconds is now being engaged. This camp has say, 3-4 spawns all within sight of each other. The player that is doing the killing has been sitting AFK nearby and killing a single spawn or occasionally popping up from his afk to hate stare at me and run around my camp then go back to being afk.
The Question: Is it his camp now? Can I prevent this scenario by sending this guy a tell and logging / screenshotting his vulture status? Is vendoring / temporary absences allowed within reason (back before even a single respawn, an announcement you are making a vendor run if the person is in zone) or are bathroom breaks and vendor runs game over?
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The rules state that short absence like that are allowable and you retain the camp. The key points here... didn't leave the zone for the vendor, and the spawn was not up for any significant amount of time. Yes, communication would probably help prevent the guy waiting from thinking you have left the camp clear for him, so yeah... you might wanna send that tell just so you can work it out before it's a problem.
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Originally Posted by M.J.
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Second Scenario
I do a camp check and a necro or shaman claims to be doing a 6-8 spawn camp solo. I run through and check on the camp and the guy is doing half of the spawns available within the camp and leaving one room up consistently. Basically he's capable of doing one full room and an extra spawn if he doesn't get any resists. I now ask him if he's killing all the mobs and just taking a med break, he says he is. I decide I'd like to see that so I sit down next to his ass and he needs my help not to die because he was full of crap and only capable of doing the one room.
The Question: Can I petition this sonuvbitch for monopolizing and lying about the camp? To me this is even worse than the wait list problem, lying about a camp or the situation in it (players sneaking / invis / hidden near by claiming the camp when no group is there) and has to be done with the intent of misleading others. It's one thing if you are taking a med break or piss break after 3 hours of continuous killing. That or maybe a bad set of resists and mobs are still up, it's another to never have the camp in the first place and lie to keep a minor advantage / claim a larger camp than you are actually capable of doing right then.
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You should speak with the necro and declare your intent on wanting to share the mobs. You should work out an amicable resolution, say... split the mobs. He had the camp first so gets to pick what mob he wants (rules state details on picking, maintaining presence, so on) but he does have to be able to kill them or the PH for them, or you guys amicably decide how to split the mobs, or you team up and take all the mobs for now. If he refuses to do anything, then yes... a petition can be made and a Guide will make a decision about it. If you force your way in and take the second room of your scenario and he petitions, then a guide will probably show up to make a decision as well. The rules are worded in a way that allows the decision to be completely up to the discretion of the guide that responds, but it does strongly suggest that people who are unreasonable or won't share probably won't like the result, or if you both don't... they will probably like it the least. :lol:.
Just my interpretation... I'm sure someone of authority can correct me if I'm wrong.
Krey