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Originally Posted by -Catherin-
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Derubael
I honestly don't see how Sirken's statement of "no trackers on the spawn point period" could be interpreted any other way than how it was stated, but,
Please give me examples of:
What evidence I can provide that makes where they are standing clearer than a screenshot with a loc. I know someone on that staff knows the location of Sev and can put the pieces together with what was provided.
And how I am supposed to get something clearer than a screenshot with a loc without actually getting close enough to provide that.
Basically, what are you looking for that you consider solid? Because this will happen again. And it will keep happening until someone finally gets caught and pays for it. The last few FFA Faydedars had agro by trackers which then died and dropped the agro onto other trackers, effectively killing all the trackers. I had originally petitioned this hoping someone could actually pop in quickly and see what was going on for themselves, as that would have worked out a lot better than me providing the unrealistic proof that seems to be required (what is needed is not clear, even if I get enough then im in violation to get it)
This has been going on regularly since the first sev dispute and nobody can give anyone enough to "prove it"
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Catherin,
Your screenshot provides
your location (not ours) and just shows a poorly drawn circle around some TMO members standing where Sev may or may not spawn in a dark zone that all looks the same. There is also no /time to show a range of time that lapsed between you making your rounds to check on the offenders. Essentially, all your screenshot shows is a single point in time where TMO member were in an indeterminable location for an indeterminate span of time. If you're looking to submit actual proof, provide a fraps
with logs to sync them to, timestamps and the images of the full communication between yourself and our player, not just a photo of you sending a single tell to one of our members and then cropping his response out of your photo by scrolling up, which is apparent in your screenshot. Essentially, this petition looks more like you're trying to draw a connection saying that no player in a guild that plans on FTEing sev can have any character anywhere in the zone other than a specific, predesignated location. If that were the rule in place, then maybe your screenshots would hold some merit.
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I had originally petitioned this hoping someone could actually pop in quickly and see what was going on for themselves
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Again, Taken is petitioning without communicating with guild leaders, which is directly against the wishes of CSR. Catherin, this is not the first time you have failed to reach out to guild leadership and have immediately bypassed the instructions of GM's to do so and gone straight to CSR. Please observe the policies in place. Continuing to 'shoot first, ask questions later' isn't constructive to the raid environment you claim you want to improve.
Taken, specifically Catherin, is also no stranger to violating rules (re: Autofire) and then petitioning or using the claim they were only trying to make a point and then 'get-out-of-jail-free'. You claim you were just observing our behavior of being off the spawn point, but as a bard you should surely know about Bind sight? You're also not stranger to Fraps, and then of course there is the safe distance approach where you could have watched us from. None of these came into play, and it becomes apparent that you were trying to claim FTE, being KoS, for yourself and only petition if you lost? Or, if observing your previous history, you'd probably petition yourself to try and make some kind of point, although I'm not sure what point you'd be illustrating.
Finally, your petition is a gross misrepresentation of what actually happened and is also blatantly deceitful. This kind of behavior should be punished unquestioned and it's this kind of behavior in PetitionQuest that leads to GM frustration and inter-guild tensions. You claim that this happened over a period of 3 hours, however the mage in your screenshot, Pnokk, wasn't even online for the 9 hours preceding Sev's spawn. You also claim that our mage, Ferment, never responded to you, when in fact he had responded only moments later, indicating that not only had he moved, he also asked you if his new location was acceptable to you - to which you never responded. The whole claim revolves around the premise that you had been observing us for 3 hours straight, however even trackers from other guilds can verify we were all tracking on the mountain across from the spawn point together, out of aggro range (on non-KoS mages, mind you). You took a number of screenshots in a very short period of time, which included one of our mages showing a brand new mage the spawn point, and are trying to sell it as a violation of raid rules.