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Originally Posted by Juryiel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I keep seeing this 'Incentivize Class C' stuff both here and from the raid forum. Apparently GMs really want to get more guilds to move to class C as some sort of worth-while goal, but so far their attempts of keeping VP class C and having class C get more loot hasn't paid off. I have the solution.

Here's a complete step by step guide to accomplishing that:

1. Make competition between guilds fun.

Most people aren't going to want to play in a 'competitive' class when competitive means FTE poopfest. Yes, FTE poopfest is definitely effort, and maybe it should be rewarded with all sorts of VPs, but for most people, all the VPs in the world aren't enough to get them to be part of that.

If competition between guilds is made to be fun somehow guilds will just go to class C when they feel they are able. Obviously a bunch of guilds now COULD go to class C, but they don't even though there are VPs on the line, which must mean that the class C play style is not even close to neutral in terms of fun for these guilds. Now, I'm not sure how you can accomplish step #1 there, but if it's not possible, then I ask, why even try to incentivize people to play in ways that are not fun but instead come down to poopfest FTE, especially considering how GMs have also claimed they don't really want people to play that way? The type of 'effort' people generally want to put into EQ is mostly PVE rather than various forms of PVP, specifically because EQ mechanics. This is not to say that class C shouldn't have exclusive VP access. If GMs want to reward the type of effort it takes to be class C, by all means. But for most people, desire for loot will not trump desire to play in ways that are fun - and that's a good thing - so this method of incentivizing wont' really get very far.

This is actually very similar to telling people from blue to go play on red. Even with all of the exp boosts, and all of the content guilds could be taking on red, they won't go. They would sooner run out of content on blue and quit.

So in both cases this 'incentivizing' is misguided, and at best translates to an effort to get people to log into a 15 year old game to do something that isn't having fun. Good luck with that effort.

TL;DR
Blah blah Class R blah blah Class C blah blah VP.

Can get on board with what you just said.