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Originally Posted by Eliseus
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Btw, there is nothing wrong with people going door to door asking if you want to hear what they have to say. It's ok that people have to accept the disease of being gay, but I'm not aloud to ask someone if they want to live the same happiness I do? Backwards logic there. What you also ask is that people accept facts that don't exist, but you also claim that people shouldn't accept, in your words, facts that don't exist. Also, the supernatural is up for personal interpretation for the most part.
(of a manifestation or event) attributed to some force beyond scientific understanding or the laws of nature.
unnaturally or extraordinarily great.
This is open to basically ANYTHING currently not explainable could be considered supernatural. This even contradicts its other definition.
manifestations or events considered to be of supernatural origin, such as ghosts.
So God in "theory" could just work at advanced technological levels that we don't understand, therefore it must be what you imply the definition of supernatural should be, but in reality, anything not able to be currently explained is supernatural, hell, most scientific theories could be explained as supernatural, and you base your opinions off of that, yet claim you don't believe in the supernatural.
Let's not also ignore the claims that science makes to be able to do God like things one day, and the existence of other life out there, apparently it's even more far fetched to assume that a God could possibly exist right? In the end though your responses and own beliefs are full of hypocritical statements and opinions. It isn't that you think people shouldn't believe in something, it's that you think everyone should just agree with your misinformation.
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Holy fuck. Is everyone else reading this?
I'm pretty sure at this point that you're just trolling because I have a hard time believing that anyone's reading comprehension is that poor. But I'll give you some quick answers just in case it is.
The definition of supernatural that you gave works for the most part. Anything outside of the realm of the natural world is supernatural. A creator god would have to be outside of the natural world, else he or she couldn't create it.
Science only deals with the natural world, so no, scientific theories cannot be supernatural because the supernatural lies outside the realm of science. Which is why science makes no claim about gods, ghosts, goblins or spooks. Having said that, there are pseudo-sciences that do make that claim, so I understand the confusion.
Hell, science does god-like things now. Or at least it would appear so to a person a couple of centuries ago.
As to whether you agree with me or not, honestly I'm expecting you not to. That matters to me not a whit. What does matter is that I make a well reasoned argument, which is difficult given that the material that you've left me to work with is rife with non-sequiturs and confoundedly poor logic. But I like a challenge.
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One question though:
Are you yet another one who believes that all scientists sit in labs using nothing but a Ouija board and a pair of dice or maybe some mouse entrails to create scientific theories?