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Originally Posted by Derubael
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^ how is it not a similar situation? BDA jumped on a mob that Taken had FTE on, and ended up losing a Nagafen. Chest has been pointing out how the situations are similar and should demand similar punishment since the decision came up.
If we're going to draw parallels and precedent and cite that as written-in-stone rules, then BDA should have been suspended for a week - a full suspension - just like FE got when they jumped a TMO FTE.
Here's another similar situation:
http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=152382
IB was suspended for... jumping an FTE. Granted, this was a "kill steal" but the actual rule violated was the same one BDA violated in that Nagafen dispute. Why is BDA not calling for themselves to be suspended for a week? Precedent, which we are putting so much stock in, states they should sit out for at least that long. |
This one is easy to answer. Because they (IB in your example) have numerous infractions of the same rule with in days apart. Thus they were suspended for a week.
Precedent has been Sirken gives a guild a time out on the very next dragon spawn (If it's on their rotation up next they have it off or if FFA is up same deal) . Every single instance of a FTE issue of a guild jumping it, interfering and or taking has lead to the next dragon off. In those instances of guilds who have multiple offenses of this issue were given a week.
It simply boils down to did Taken have FTE? No? Then they broke the rules when they decided to kill the fucking thing anyways. It isn't much easier to go off of than that. Anyone else on the encounter logs don't mean shit since they had no need to remove themselves from a encounter agro list that they don't even see.
If you want to start going back and saying you can punish people for just being on the agro list of encounters they didn't have FTE, then no one would be raiding at all for the next 5 months. Being on the list alone isn't breaking the rules.
TL/DR
Taken gained agro without FTE. They MUST Die/Camp/Zone. Next up on the agro list, they do the same and so on till it resets. If those guilds don't do it, and kill the dragon then they break the FTE rules that are clear.
It's that simple and you or Sirken are reading too much into it and making it harder than it should be. You have every fucking guild on the server in unison saying this.
End result Taken broke the rules with FTE no matter what. They should have the next FFA Sev off if this is their first offense. If it's not, then a week.