I am amazed at how many of you just don't get it. There is evidence. It is indisputable that evidence exists. The veracity of the evidence is what can be disputed.
"There is no evidence" is an objective statement which can be easily disproven.
"There is no evidence that I find credible" is a subjective statement.
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Originally Posted by isitatomic
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A boss in Heaven is the best excuse for a boss on earth.
If God really existed, it would be necessary to abolish him.
As long as we have a master in heaven, we will be slaves on earth.
(Bakunin was an international terrorist and a miserable political theorist, but when you're right you're right)
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Wow, way to denigrate your own source.
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Originally Posted by Villide
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Perhaps I am brainwashed, but that does not preclude the possibility that you are as well.
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Is it possible to be brainwashed to be a lapsed Catholic agnostic who can't quite bring himself to give a shit about his own beliefs, much less others' beliefs? I think my (lack of) beliefs is a pretty good sign that I am not brainwashed. My problem with the atheists is that it ticks off my OCD need for accuracy and logic. Stating that there is no evidence for the existence of God when there obviously is evidence makes me start to twitch. Debate the accuracy of that evidence all you want.
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Difference is, I was brainwashed into the cult of religion at an early age. When I grew up, I required a bit of evidence to continue believing in some invisible, all-powerful being. That evidence just doesn't exist. Until it does, I'll continue to see it the way I see it.
I know, I know...this is the part of the program where we discuss "faith". So I'll just concede the victory to you on this argument, because there's no way I can win that one.
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Now you seem to be saying that you do not believe 1 way or the other. In which case my twitching at logical inaccuracy will subside.