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Do you see what I mean? For any one person who thinks they're being wronged, there is someone on the other side that bring they're same moral implications to bear. The only way around that Gordian knot is 1) both sides come to a mutual conclusion that they shouldn't be forcing other people to do things or 2) one side eradicates the other.
I think a lot of people know that, but few actually practice it. Actually stopping people who are unfairly manipulating the system to further their beliefs or whose beliefs or desires destabilize things or cause horrible things to happen is an independent issue; one that won't be solved until rational people from all beliefs learn that tolerance isn't a nice or fuzzy word. It's a survival mechanism that requires us to co-exist with people and ideas we don't like.
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That's one of the flaws with the two party system. Balls to the wall or nothing instead of simple option 3. For example.
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For the sake of brevity and ease of discussion, let's use an example. Exactly who did you have in mind when you say "these groups"? Lobbyists trying to pass anti-gay legislation?
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Gay marriage bans are wrong no matter what way you look at it, however at the same token, forcing priests to perform marriages against the will of their belief system is also wrong. If any of these lawmakers had a lick of sense, they'd allow the individual churches to decide whether or not they would allow same-sex marriages. The issue is the politicians who have money in it one way or the other so either side has much less gain if you make that sweet middle ground.
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Maybe you meant those trying to pass anti-gun legislation?
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You'll have to be more specific but either way banning any kind of weapon should be considered unconstitutional (You should be able to purchase a rocket launcher, AAA gun, Tanks, Planes etc.) and gun-free zones absolutely don't work. This is coming from a social progressive who has never owned/fired a gun mind you.
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Or did you mean casino owners fighting for the rights to set up shop in Hawaii?
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I know next to nothing about the nuances of casino issues since I don't gamble but am not anti-gambling. I do know from experience with the casinos (I think Trump?) recently wanted to set up in Western Mass, that it should be up to the individual districts and by extension the local voter populace, to decide whether or not they want to allow it, no different than deciding about an amusement park, movie theater, shopping mall etc..