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Old 10-12-2010, 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Noselacri [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Stories are not evidence. I could point you towards thousands of people who claim they've beed abducted by UFOs, but that's not evidence either; and, as with UFOs, witnessing divine manifestation is something that has been lied about (or mistakenly perceived) so frequently that the evidence would have to be absolutely undisputable. Photos of Jesus toast don't count.
Are you retarded? Of course stories are evidence. In a court of law they are called "eye witness accounts." Again, the amount of credence these stories should be given can be debated, but it is not debatable that it is indeed evidence. You simply refuse to believe the evidence is truthful; it doesn't change the fact that these accounts fit the definition of evidence.

There are a lot of credible reports of the existence of aliens. The problem is that once closed-minded people like yourself make up their mind what the answer is, they discard all evidence to the contrary. If you assume aliens do not exist, whenever you are confronted with evidence of aliens you will automatically assume the evidence is fake. In this situation there is no amount of evidence that could change your mind, since you would dismiss it all out of hand.

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2010/09/27...el-say/?hpt=T2

http://abcnews.go.com/International/...china-11813189

http://www.mufon.com/

Note how the only opposition to this is from a snob who seems peeved that this guy didn't send him the data.
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/...est=latestnews

I know its wikipedia, but if you don't trust it then look up their source documents. Pay especial attention to the real people with credible jobs who have been officially admitted to having been present.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roswell...ccounts_emerge

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Originally Posted by Noselacri [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Virtually every defining aspect of Christianity is appropriated wholesale from other religions that far predate it. This is the main reason why I find it difficult to believe.
This shows your bias. A set of beliefs is passed along through time and you assume that somehow this invalidates its claims to being a universal truth. I'm sure that when you rip on Scientology you point to how it was created out of whole cloth only a few decades ago as proof that it should not be believed.

Similar to how you discount all alien evidence because you have already made up your small, closed mind about what you want to believe, you choose to believe or to discount evidence based upon whether it supports your pre-existing opinions, not whether your arguments make sense or contradict themselves.


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Originally Posted by Villide [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
I'd hazard that many of these "intelligent" and "gifted" members of the world were brainwashed with religion in the early stages of their lives. The fact that a majority of the world's peoples believe in one particular religion or another is proof of how firmly entrenched that brainwashing can be at an early age.
Such small-minded self-righteousness. What proof do you have that it is the religious that have been brain-washed and not yourself? You'd rather believe that a vast majority of all humans who have ever lived are wrong rather than to face the truth: either they are right, or you are just as brainwashed as they are because you choose to believe in something whole-heartedly that cannot be 100% proven or disproven. There is no 'win' situation for an atheist, unlike the religious or the agnostic.