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Originally Posted by Haynar
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Basically open public debate of raid drama, with the illusion of a formal process.
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I believe you have misread what I wrote. There is no public debate; the complaint is released to the accused who gets one shot to rebut it and the decision maker decides. It's pretty much exactly what we do now, except, you know, more organized. Please read more carefully before you publicly condemn something; your status as a developer carries a lot of weight.
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Originally Posted by Pheer
Pretty funny how when things are going in TMO's favor they have no problem, but the moment something goes against them suddenly the system is broken and there needs to be an overhaul
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Please explain to me how I am attempting to leverage this specifically into TMO's favor. I know that you often follow me into threads, but please drop the act and try attacking the point on its merits for once.
Look, the system is fine just like walking up the stairs to get to the 4th floor is fine. It's not too hard, and most of us can do it. The question is why when the elevator is right there. I know I run the RL examples into the ground with comparisons to American courts. This isn't a court of law; it's a damned hobbyist EQ emulator. But there's a reason I use these examples, and it's because they work. No one wants to deal with needless bureaucratic bullshit. I remember when TMO got one of its suspensions from Amelinda overturned. Without commenting on the fairness of the result, the actual discussion was a nightmare TMO submitted a "brief" that was close to probably over 10 pages when you added it all up, and it had many minutes of raw fraps. Then you can add in countless PMs, petitions, and in game conversations. It's just exhausting. Not to mention extremely disorganized. Facts get lost in the shuffle. On top of all that, IB wasn't even notified of the ruling when the suspension was lifted. How is that fair?
What I have proposed is
exactly what we do now except that it is more organized. It literally boils down to this:
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Originally Posted by How shit should get did
GUILD A "We got trained. Here's ALL our argument in a short easy to read summary"
GM *Hands Guild B the stuff from A* "Guild B what do you say"
GUILD B "Here's all of our defense in a short summary"
GM I rule XYZ
DONE.
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It is beyond me how anyone could think that the current program of PMs back and forth and constant Skyping, chatting, PMing, and petitioning for each individual complaint is ever preferable to this. It's madness in my view. If the GM staff feels there is no need for formal procedure then that's their decision to make. As a member of the community and an active raider, I feel strongly that things are way more difficult and arduous than they need to be.