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Originally Posted by Chuck_still_a_virgin
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God, HB, even you know this is a bullshit argument.
If the 1927 New York Yankees were stretching on the field, a high school team COULD have run on the field, hit a few home runs and say they beat the yankees. The reality is, all the yankees have to do is stand up and beat the shit out of them.
The problem is systemic in the server. It doesn't matter if it's Nihilum, it could be any guild monopolizing the raid mobs. All it takes to recruit someone is say "Hey, if you don't join us you'll never get loot". The loot pinata is set up every week at the same time, monopoly guild rolls down the hill and knocks down every single mob in order. Even in your example, if the mob was stolen, so what? You guys stand up and play real baseball next week by logging in 60 players and watch the other guild log off for 3 months or have their members recruited into the monopoly guild. Then you blame the 2nd place guilds for not competing. The rules of the server kill raid mob pvp and they kill guilds as a result. Variance allows more guilds to be formed, not create a monopoly on every mob in the game.
The worst part is that Nihilum members can't voice dissent, they can't say variance is a good idea. Not because they believe it, but because Nizzar will guildremove them and blacklist them from ever getting loot. Rogean has created a dictator in Nizzar. I haven't played on this server in 2-2.5 years, I'm about as unbiased as you can get. Anyone against variance is a shill or just doesn't understand high level thought.
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So lets use your 1927 Yankees example. The Yankees won the world series in '27 and '28, but not in '24, '25, '26, '29 or '30. Were the Yankees the best team in the '20s? Without a doubt, some of the best teams of all time. Did they win it every year? Nope. Because other teams actually played against them and occasionally won.
And we can have our own opinions, believe it or not. If I was pro-variance I'd say it. People act like guild officers are running Nihilum like a communist regime, censoring people voicing dissent. It just isn't true, even in the slightest. I haven't seen someone in the last year get guild removed over anything other than being a terrible EQ player and messing up raids or being a complete douche. And even then it was only apps. The only FQing that is going to get you in trouble is if you're attacking members of the guild for some reason.
Kinda funny a thread titled "alternatives to variance" devolves into yet another dead horse variance debate.