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Old 06-09-2014, 04:33 PM
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No I 100% believe that cigarette smoke is caused by cigarettes.
20 years ago there was clear evidence that lung cancer and smoking were linked, just as there is clear evidence that global warming is man-made now. Yet back then there were also screwball scientists saying there was no link, and the tobacco industry did everything they could support those scientists and hide the link between cigarettes and cancer (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2600597/). Try and look at the mistakes people made back then and connect them to what's happening now.

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Yeah I read that one too. Dr. Lu's findings seem to make much more sense though. I mean CFC's are not naturally occurring, so you would assume that they would be much more damaging than C02, which is completely natural. But obviously since someone whose job it is to "debunk" findings like his has a counterargument, then I guess we'll just have to dismiss it completely.
"Seemed to make much more sense". Forgive me if I think we should take the word of thousands of people who devote their lives to the study of climate and not the one scientist who "makes sense" to you.

If you want to talk about "what makes sense", I say trust the scientific community. You do that with everything else right? When you go to the hospital you trust the research behind your treatment, you don't say "well there's this one dude in Glasgow who believes infection is caused by lack of exposure to ducks; fuck your antibiotics I'm gonna go rub some ducks on this wound!" When you build a building you don't say "fuck those seismic engineers, I'm using a single pillar to support my building; there's a guy in Mexico who says it will work!"

Just because the duck growers society pays for a study saying ducks work as antibiotics doesn't mean you should start rubbing ducks on your wounds. And just because a few lone scientists want to get money and or fame by claiming something crazy doesn't mean you should listen to them instead of the thousands of other people who are really experts and who don't have oil and gas companies buying their word.