[QUOTE=VANVEM;1487305]Thanks for playing......
Um actually thats not how it happened: lets review shall we?
So as you can see clearly Unbrella Told Chest to fuck off first. Also if you have been keeping up with the thread, (which is in question since your facts are all screwed up) You will notice that the arguement that TMO was just trying to help GT is shot out the window, since Both Unbrella states he is looking for the "monkies and fetids" and what Syzzurp wants is plainly clear.
Gt was talking to chest too, and there was talk in /gu and vent about letting them just join BDA's raid, but then TMO steps in, and obviously it went down hill from there.
As for your claim that Unbrella tried to resolve the situation:
http://i.imgur.com/eTyEi70.png
Now in case you cant comprehend this, let me explain. Unbrella tried to deny the incident, If TMO or anybody else on the server who claim to be trying to ease the hostilities, want to actually accomplish this task. Then the solution is to immediately step in an resolve stuff, not wait until they have been caught with So Damning evidence that they are FORCED to go into damage control mode. HENCE the reasoning behind:
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Originally Posted by VANVEM
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THIS!
The GM's want people to work things out on their own? FINE!
The implement a policy that makes GM intervention on punishments 10X greater if they are forced to intervene.
Because if The fear of the GM intervention is in place then people will work much harder to STOP all the bullshit. Also id that means that if someone brings frivolous petition to the GMs is called BS, then they get sanctioned, I'd be ok with that.
but consistency for the sanctions regardless of guild would have to be put in place.
and the last issue:
While I truly wish that BDa had been given the chance to work something out with GT, I have friends in GT that i would have very much liked a chance to help them out in fear. (also lets stop playing the sob story about 1st ever fear raid, it was GT's first on this server, they have experience players in the guild as well)
First off REGARDLESS of ANYONE's personal opinion, Clearing yard trash in fear IS A RAID! this is established in the servers raid policies, it truly does not matter if you like that or not
it is also been established that more than 1 grp can clear in the planes at a time, period. AGAIN does not matter if you agree or not.
So while I wish Chest and all of BDA had been given this opportunity, YEAH I dont see where Chest broke any rules, or where he allowed anyone from BDA to break any rules.
And I assure you that if anyone had, he and the other officers of BDA would not have had to wait until the threat of fraps being made for the GM's or the rest of the server came into the picture before they would have taken action.
So yes I support Chest's role in this issue.
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Ask TMO about the time they came up to hate as AG was starting to clear, watched them clear for about 15 minutes then ported a raid force up and started aeing everything.