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Originally Posted by Ella`Ella
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There was no misunderstanding. TMO and FE were both forbidden from Noble when they were suspended in the past thus, Noble should have continued to be forbidden during a raid suspension as previous precedent had evidenced. Noble has FTE shouts, is still contested even on YNYD at times and requires a large enough force to down. With these three metrics in place, there is no way you can manipulate Noble into NOT being a raid target.
Noble is still a contested raid target with the only exception that there is a player agreement to leave Overseers up. TMO didn't go after Tuesday's Noble as an act of aggression, that's simply a means to justify by the offending parties. TMO went after a contested raid target when it spawned while a guild that was raid suspended was in the zone - it's nothing more black and white than that - as any other guild was welcome to contest this open spawn.
Retaliation by clearing the rest of the overseers which damages the community as a whole is an act of aggression from both parties; IB (again, during a raid suspension against a 'raid target') and Taken. Killing these was not only a violation of a raid suspension by IB but it was also a spiteful attack on the server by cheating the other guilds of 3 more nobles during the week.
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I 100% agree with you that these mobs are raid targets, however, they are NOT given any consideration as so by the GMs. They are not on the 1/1/1 system and are when we got suspended I was told by Sirken that Sky mobs are good to go! Which, I firmly believe, should include Noble, OOAs and HoV. These mobs should NOT be just a regular mob and SHOULD be added be given the weight they deserve. However, they are not. Which is why IB got pissed that you guys came up to capitalize on "their Noble" even though they were in suspension... because technically they can still kill it according to previous GM suspension rules.