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Old 06-04-2014, 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Thread should be called

"Why do people suck at wizards"


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(and you left some stuff out)
Didn't leave anything else out. Unless you mean burst damage, which is entirely useless in a traditional group. The sustained dps of *any melee class* over time is more valuable than the wizard. A Necro or Mage's pet has higher sustained DPS than the wizard. So over the course of a successful group, you're better off having a Mage, Necro, or Chanter playing one-handed than having a wizard. Even a level 60 one.

"Oh no we overpulled we must have a burst nuker to survive"

Where's your CC? If he sucks or is dead, the wizard's burst will most likely not save you. Many other classes are far, far better options in this instance. Even at full mana dump, a wizard isn't outputting more than ~7500/8000 damage.

Go look at the hp levels for any of the major mobs in Seb, and also factor in that after a wizard mana dumps, you're out any DPS for 5-8 minutes.

Evac? Druids have that, spot heals, and their nukes are almost as efficient.

If all a wizard is good at doing is barely surviving when your group is failing, I think you've made my argument for me.

Stuns? Horribly aggro-prone and subject to resists in an end-level dungeon, even with Concussion. Might as well have a second chanter or Paladin if that's what you're after.

There's no argument for a wizard in a traditional xp group (see my original statement regarding PBAoE) other than there's no one better or you know the person and you know they won't screw up and cause a wipe.

"Knowing your class" doesn't help when your class simply cannot fit the role you're trying to put them in as well as any other class.
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