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"Nah bro its not that we can't compete, we just dont want to." Tell that to you 47 man Trak wipe with no competition and no kiting.
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Wasn't so much a wipe as a new monk learning to pull Protector out of Trak - half the raid camped out. It wasn't an FFA situation so no need for haste, let new players learn how pull things in case main monks aren't available.