[Lazie]

Originally Posted by Kekephee [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh, I get it. You're trolling. You'd have to be since everything Chest has been ranting and raving about for literally the entire length of time I've been in this guild, and the smart money is much, much earlier than that, has everything to do with how mobs are tracked and engaged.

[QUOTE=Kekephee;1472072]Chest only wants changes that makes its a sure thing his guild will get more kills with limited effort. You still have to track your free mobs don't you ? Exactly. But you won't track and attempt mobs where the guild has to compete and be the fast and efficient. Sounds like a player issue and not a track and engage issue.

Originally Posted by Kekephee [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Trak's lair becomes a horrid poopsock hovel, a shantytown where cartoon character drones piloted by angioplasty cases sit around for weeks at a time waiting for pops? That's a tracking and engagement issue.

2 people sit in the lair for a 16 hour window. Most of the time it takes less than 8 hours of tracking on a lot of these mobs. That is what variance does. No one is spending weeks at Trak. Again sounds like a lack of desire to want to put in a tracking effort when there is a chance you might lose. Player issue.

Originally Posted by Kekephee [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Guilds buying up accounts en masse so they can leave hundreds of alts camped out at the spawn points of various mobs and their members can stand around with twelve character select screens loaded up for easy logging in on whatever spawns? That's a tracking and engagement issue.

I dunno about accounts bought because I never bought one. I do know that there are "hundreds of alts camped out at the spawn points of various mobs". There are a lot and a lot of them are player leveled and some of them were bought when accounts were tradeable. TMO is not the only guild that had players buy accounts. Your logic is flawed though if the accounts were bought they would be different character select screens. I though personally have a necro and monk. I leveled both. As has many others in our guild.

Originally Posted by Kekephee [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

VS/Inny become fights where guilds leave monks as trackers spamming javelins for FTE and Chest loses his shit- that's an engagement issue and a tracking issue

I got FTE on the last Inny being ported up from WC. Sounds like Chest needs to get better at the game or at least be aware of EQ mechanics on these engages and how to take advantage of them. However if you Ranger Track Inny it is no different than face tracking Inny with someone there on the spawn. The person on the spawn simply knows quicker than a Ranger and can be ready to take the first DT. Engage VS instantly is just as risky btw and isn't always instantly engaged.

Originally Posted by Kekephee [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The problem with all the FFA shit as it is now, the reason Chest is fighting so hard to get it changed, is that there is no competition for first engagement in any healthy sense- it's about staring the longest at the screen, pushing "JAVELIN GO" first, scrapping and clawing and trampling each other with trains for FTE. These are engagement and tracking issues.

The problem with your comment is you think you are an expert to decide that. Unless you attempt to raid these targets you have no clue how healthy it is or isn't in the current system. The fact that you don't attempt these mobs is obvious in how you think these engages go. You are wrong in most cases that you listed.