lol I think people get too worked up on this server -
Fact: guild cores have always taken care of themselves and that 15-20% of the 20/7 players need the less casuals to play to gear themselves up ( every guild in my EQ history has been the same ) so if you're casual you really don't factor in to the core groups plans. I was in a pop guild that once awarded a Monk weapon favored to a Beastlord because that Beastlord had been in the guild for a long time; prompting a monk to /deguild on the spot.
Fact: use the 10-80-10 rule in all guilds: 10% c%nts, 80% indiff., 10% good, and the 80% is generally lead by whichever other 10% is in control.
Fact: Some of these people play this game 15-20 hrs a day and get really angry/hateful on the inside any want to take that angry angst out on people. How do I know? because when play 15-20 hrs in a day I get angsty and anything pisses me off in game.
tl;dr
There is no doubt there are shitfaced losers in each guild who make it their priority to fuck people over whether it's in their own guild or others for the sake of their "buddy, buddies". If you play 20/7 and suck their dicks you'll be in with them, if you don't, then play on with little expectations. I personally have 0 expectations of getting anything from guilds on Red as I have 5% chance of making raids/pvp.
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p.s. the Monk was my friend in game and I felt like /deguilding myself too, but I realized that it was the core taking care of the core - and regardless of how many QQs people gave about it didn't stop it, and didn't stop it from happening again. Greed, money and "so-called" power brings the worse out of people in this elfsim and in real life.
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